No Quartz, it wasnt you, your input is definately appreciated, it was chubear's accusations at the bottom, basically accusing me of lies/ being biased. with that attitude of CHUBEAR, well i guess we know what system, is the system of choice. I don't think we should knock one another. I started the post to see how many people agree with me on the defective products. I could go on with other companies etc, but this is a video game post. since sony is making systems I fealt it appropriate to start the post. I could go on about windows progrms about microsoft, but I was specifically targeting video games systems as much as possible. Again, what you wrote was fine , it was CHUBEAR's not reading everything I wrote, I think CHUBEAR read a few sentances then dictacted the rest without even thinking of a respnes. I personally take offense to being accused by CHUBEAR's verbage