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Comrade Tovya said:

 

Please, do not mistake me for someone who wants to use military force against weed-pushers... LOL

I honestly don't give two craps about bud... I'm no fan of it, but it's not a social concern of mine.  In all seriousness, I know at least 3 people on my street alone who I can get it from if I really wanted it.. and honestly, I only know 2 different people who smoke cigarettes on my block.  So, the moral of the story is, it's almost easier to get weed and than cigarettes (and really, ounce for ounce, weed is really a better bargain. :)  Hell, there were at least 20 people I went to high school with who grew it at home...

Seriously though, the cartels big money maker is cocaine... I despise coke.  I would never advocate legalizing it.  I stand by my statement of making war against the cartels to erradicate the cocaine trade.  Legalizing coke would be horrendous for the United States.

And Jackson50, God bless you, really, but I don't give a crap about the hegemony of other nations... well, I do, but I hold the security of the United States much higher.  If Mexico and Columbia can't keep their cartels under control because of corruption, and those drug war failures spill onto US soil (and they do) then it's in the interest of the United States to use military intervention to prevent this.

Both of these nations wouldn't object as much as you might think either... it has nothing to do with them not wanting us to--it has everything to do with us not wanting to.

And like I've stated before, my grandfather is Mexican, so I've always had a deep love for Mexico.... I want to see the cartels wiped out for their good as much as our own.  And less corruption is not only good for Mexico, but good for us as well.

I agree with most everything you say, although the problem is much wider than just drug cartels.  And marijuana is by far the drug that is trafficked the most across the board, and it is the steadiest stream of revenue.

But you are claiming we are justified in using military intervention to fix this problem?  That is just plain ludicrous.  Would you allow another country to come into the U.S. and do that for a similar reason? 

The necessity for the war on drugs is completely blown out of proportion.  Alcohol alone causes more social harm and socially detrimental crime than all the illegal drugs combined.  Drug addicts are dangerous, but only a small percentage of the population would be true drug addicts even if some of the harder core narcotics were illegal.  Its really not that hard to get access to drugs, and most people who would be willing to try hardcore narcotics would do so whether or not it was legal.  Not to mention the government could extensively regulate these things if they were legal.

 



We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.  The only thing that really worried me was the ether.  There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke

It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson