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Soriku said:
bbsin said:
Soriku said:
@bbsin

I'll answer to #2 of your answers.

See my post above.

Oh, and I like how you can say "no one knows how well the games will turn out, because no one has played them yet" If that's the case for Wii JRPGs...the same goes for SO4, FF XIII, etc.

 

No shit, genius. You just proved my point. But I'm not the one going balls out to claim that "x" console is bar-none the "definitive one" am I? 

Don't try to turn his crap against me like I'm the cocky one.

And as a response to your reply. It's wrong.

You need a consistant stream of quaility JRPG titles AND "AAA" franchises. This includes small dev JRPGS, Mid teir and the few "AAA" titles. This also needs to be in effect for quite a considerable frame of time (AKA PS2) and have virtually no competition to be considered "definitive". You can't just go around claiming "superiority" so early in the console's life, while relying mainly on potential (isn't that a gripe people usually have with PS3 fanboys).

You do realize that, that was my entire point in the first place right?

The issue here is that you both fail to realize that it's possible to not have a "definitive genre console" at all during a generation. You assume that the competition will lose all support, and that your favorite console will only gain more support until the end of the cycle. Then, you use that as a halfassed irresponsible claim that the Wii is already the "defacto, definitive choice for the genre". Like I said, you guys got to be pretty dim to not realize the flaws and bias in your claims.

 

I think Claude went a bit overboard, but what he said isn't necessarily untrue if the events of DQ IX to the DS hod true for DQ X for the Wii. And the Wii is stil wiping the floor with both HD consoles in Japan as well. From here on out, you're going to see more and more JRPG support for the Wii, while the HD consoles get very little if at all since like I said before the only games releasing for them/have released for them were games announced years ago, not recently like plenty of Wii JRPGs have. It's not a matter of thinking the HD consoles will lose a lot of/all JRPG support...it's really happening. By definitive we're talking about the majority....and the Wii will have the majority.

Look, I never ignored the fact that the Wii is indeed snuffing out the HD consoles in Japan. I never denied that it will undoubtedly draw a large amount of JRPG (both big and small) support on the Wii's side. It's logical and it's a fair point. All I'm saying is that it's far too early to crown the Wii as the "definitive" (as claude put it) console. What if WKC sells great? what is FF13 becomes a huge success both in and out of Japan? Would that not spark some dev interest on either consoles? What if Japan continues to go in a downward spiral of what it used to be and publishers look for other places to sell games? The PS3 and 360 already has had more major support than the Xbox and Gamecube had as competition to the PS2. It's not going to be the same case as last gen, there are just too many factors involved.

All in all, it's really just claude's misunderstanding of the word "definitive" that's causing this entire issue.