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mrstickball said:
...So 450,000 and 360,000 units (Z&W then NMH) are considered major 3rd party successes? I was just using 2 of the better-reviewed games that had sub-par sales on the Wii. If both were successes, what about the PS3/X360 games that had similar reviews (80%+) that managed to sell millions like Dead Rising, or Saints Row?

Could also go with:

Madden 09 (360,000)
de Blob (200,000)
Fifa 09 (190,000)
Geometry Wars: Galaxies (70,000)
Trauma Center: New Blood (150,000 + PAL)

Just for a few of the higher rated 3rd party games in the Wii library that didn't perform too well for sales.

You're pushing it, man. Madden, Blob and Fifa still have the majority of sales ahead of them, and you know it. Geometry sales are awful, I'll give you that, but it was horribly overpriced (€40) and it should've been WiiWare.

It seems I also have to remind you of the difference in development costs between Wii and HD consoles: they are enormous.