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Kwaad said: Could anyone explain to me why the PS3's games in march, april... suck... and then in june and july suck? compared to Wii and 360? Because I dont know where your getting your game releases from. But would you send me a link? because Sonys software starts next week! EDIT: It's gonna be one of a few things. But background downloading is almost a guarentee. Enhanced Remote control... That's what everyone is hopeing for. And all the fanboys think it's Gonna be Killzone. I got my money on the enhanced Remote Control. ALSO: Sony is starting to give MASSVIE developer confrences teaching people how to program the CELL, as well as releasing releasing awosome SDKs. On the developer support. Sony is blowing Nintendo out of the water. EDIT2: It's likely there might be some announcement about Killzone. With the Halo3 Hype machine in full swing, sony needs to bring the 360 users, and future users eyes to them.
Being that the original Killzone had an average score on Gamerankings of 73% and only sold 750,000 copies in North America I would not get too excited about Killzone 2 ... Now, as for Developer Support ... Nintendo developed the Gamecube to be a very easy to develop for and has a very mature toolset; they don't need to do massive confrences to teach people how to program for the Wii because it is simple. Every week (it seems) there are more and more developers announcing new projects for the Wii while everyone seems quite when it comes to the PS3.



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everyone always says ps3s are collecting dust blah blah blah.. thats probably true but when you compare numbers!!! im talkin about launches aligned number!!! the ps3 is doing better than the 360.. thats the point im tryin to make... and i know most of you will say if the 360 could have met demand it would have sold more but the fact of the matter is that it didnt and what we have now are numbers that are provin all you ps3 haters out there wrong...and for those of you who keep comparin the ps3 to the wii please stop... yal must feel real good doiong that but come on thats 2 different ballparks and you know it so why compare it..???? my friends grandma plays wii because thats who its marketed to... thats why its cheap its supposed to sell more people!!! im proud of the wii but you idiots compare it to the ps3 and 360 like that means a whole lot..



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Hows is it unfair to compare the sales of 2 video game consoles? Now has anyone heard the rumors of "Playstation Home" http://kotaku.com/gaming/sony/rumor-sony-to-unveil-playstation-home-240746.php It seems very plausible to me, especially given Sony's response



Leo-j said: If a dvd for a pc game holds what? Crysis at 3000p or something, why in the world cant a blu-ray disc do the same?

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MikeB, I respect the fact that you feel the need to defend the PS3. I do agree that it gets attacked far too much. 2m units sold is very good for a system of it's price and such negative publicity. I have gone on record time and time again here and elsewhere to state my belief that the PS3 will beat out both the Wii and 360 in sales worldwide, due to good succuess in all 3 markets. However, to be fair, your comparison of the PS3 versus 360 launch is flawed. You are comparing merely the US and Japan - yes, a market both launched in. However, the 360 launched in Europe far before Sony will launch the PS3 in Europe. Due to this, your numbers are misguided and wrong. Microsoft shipped around 650k, 300k, and 100k during it's November-December launch window in all 3 territories, if not in less time. Due to this, your numbers are falsely leading to a better PS3 launch. It's obvious that the PS3 is by far the better hardware mover in Japan. However, Sony has had the advantage in your charts to only have 2 territories to worry about versus Microsoft's 3. This has escewed your numbers. Let's take a look at actual sales of the PS3 versus the 360 worldwide in the Nov-Dec-Jan period, to give a true depiction of how both systems manage to sell: _____________ 360 November: 375,250 - H/W in NA, 1,448,250 S/W in NA No EU or Japan sales PS3 November: 222,250 - H/W in NA, 261,500 S/W in NA 167,500 - H/W in Japan No EU sales _____________ In November, w/w, Sony leads by 14,500 units. MS leading S/W sales (US only) by 1,186,750 units. _____________ 360 December: 303,500 - H/W in NA, 1,390,000 S/W in NA 500,000 - H/W in Europe (300k at launch + 200k rest of month) http://www.johnporcaro.com/2006/01/xbox_news_from_.html 73,750 - H/W in Japan PS3 December: 537,500 H/W in NA, 1,240,000 S/W in NA 309,500 H/W in Japan No EU sales ________________ MS leads Sony by 15,750 units in H/W w/w, 1,336,750 units in S/W in the US ________________ 360 January: 269,000 - H/W in NA, 753,000 S/W in NA 130,000 - H/W in Europe (estimate) - Estimated by assuming Europe got 30% of MS's Q1 shipment(s) 32,750 - H/W in Japan PS3 January: 275,500 H/W in NA, 745,000 S/W in NA 146,250 H/W in Japan ________________ MS leads Sony by 25,750 H/W units, and 1,344,750 units of software. No spreadsheet working to show it, but here are the facts, if you want to be honest: The 360 matched the PS3 w/w in terms of hardware sales (roughly), and totally dominated it in terms of software in the US, and most likely abroad during launch. Even further, the 360 had a nice little lead being around for an extra year. Now, that might not matter, but as of right now, in the US, the 360 is out-selling the PS3 by about 3:1 since November. Quite a big discrepancy, eh? The 360 has also beat the PS3 w/w since launch due to great sales in the US (2.2m since November, versus PS3s 1.1m), and having Europe to offset PS3's sales in Japan. Again, I'm not a doom-and-gloom Sony anti-fan. I believe the PS3 will slowly gain momentum w/w throughout the year, and steadily improve shipments year over year for the next 3-4 years, top out, then have a gradual decline like the PS2 has. But if your wanting to argue sales, lets do it honestly and do worldwide, rather than hunt and pick sales not counting sold X360 systems in Europe, when it should be there. The PS3 isn't the PS2 - it lost the window to do business like it has done, and it's doubtful it'll be anywhere close to the PS1. Will it end up improving like the PS1 did over its lifetime? Yes, absolutely. However, at such a high pricepoint, the most we can hope for is the PS3 will match the PS2s REVENUE, but only about 60-66% of it's lifetime h/w sales.



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Bonafide732 said: everyone always says ps3s are collecting dust blah blah blah.. thats probably true but when you compare numbers!!! im talkin about launches aligned number!!! the ps3 is doing better than the 360.. thats the point im tryin to make... and i know most of you will say if the 360 could have met demand it would have sold more but the fact of the matter is that it didnt and what we have now are numbers that are provin all you ps3 haters out there wrong...and for those of you who keep comparin the ps3 to the wii please stop... yal must feel real good doiong that but come on thats 2 different ballparks and you know it so why compare it..???? my friends grandma plays wii because thats who its marketed to... thats why its cheap its supposed to sell more people!!! im proud of the wii but you idiots compare it to the ps3 and 360 like that means a whole lot..
Your poor English dishonors my ears ... Ok, the PS3 has out performed one of the worst console launches in history; would you like a trophy? If you want to see something interesting, make a graph of every console and handhelds first year on the market ... you'll notice that most of the consoles that are not the market leader clump together and the market leader (usually) ends up taking a very early lead.



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Erik Aston said: Y'know Nintendo fans are looking forward to GDC and the March/April lineup too, and 360 fans to a lesser extent.
Point taken.



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This is silly. The stats clearly show that for a "3rd generation, highly anticipated" console - the PS3 is doing very badly in Japan, so-so in the US (and will probably do ok in Europe). The fact that unit sales are so far below shipment figures - and that PS3's are easy to find on shelves (almost anywhere) indicates this beyond any form of argument or discussion. End of story.



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sieanr all im sayin is that the 360 and ps3 are going after a totally different market than the wii. personally i dont think it makes sense to compare 2 other machines that cost twice as much as the wii..if thats the case we might as well be comparin sales numbers of honda civics to jags and bentleys.. HappySqurriel so i guess the ps3 launch was the best in history then accoriding to you. 360 launched in all 3 major territories at once the ps3 didnt. therefore you should be able to use your brain and figuire out hey maybe thats why there are more ps3s available around this time of year than 360s were last year.. if the ps3 launched in europe i have no doubts they would still be shortages everywhere and not just in certain spots.. but like i said before i cant prove that can I? no i cant so the only thing i can go by is numbers.. but im a fan of gaming i want all 3 to succeed



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Bonafide732 said: sieanr all im sayin is that the 360 and ps3 are going after a totally different market than the wii. personally i dont think it makes sense to compare 2 other machines that cost twice as much as the wii..if thats the case we might as well be comparin sales numbers of honda civics to jags and bentleys..
I do understand what you're saying. But unlike cars, there are only 3 makers of major home consoles so I do think it's prudent to compare the 3. They may be targeting different markets but comparing the Wii and PS3 shows the relative success or failure of their respective strategies. Although I digress... Using your logic then comparing the PS1 or even 360 launch with the PS3 is unfair. They launched at different times targeting different markets and audiences. The 360 was the first Next-gen console, whereas the PS3 was dropped on a market already through transition -and that makes a big difference. All comparisons are "unfair" in one sense or another, unless the two systems are practically identical.



Leo-j said: If a dvd for a pc game holds what? Crysis at 3000p or something, why in the world cant a blu-ray disc do the same?

ssj12 said: Player specific decoders are nothing more than specialized GPUs. Gran Turismo is the trust driving simulator of them all. 

"Why do they call it the xbox 360? Because when you see it, you'll turn 360 degrees and walk away" 

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500,000 - H/W in Europe (300k at launch + 200k rest of month
As for these December XBox 360 sales figures, although according to Microsoft they shipped 500k to Europe in 2005, according the VGcharts and other sources actual hardware sales were closer to 390k: http://www.vgcharts.org/euroyearly.php?year=2005 I don't think the European PS3 release delay will have much of a negative effect for the long run (the PSX and PS2 with much longer delays performed just fine). there's an important firmware update coming up and an impressive list of 36 launch games including Motorstorm, Resistance, Virtua Figher 5, Oblivion, Formula One, Tekken 5 DR, Lemmings, etc. That sounds like a much more interesting launch than Japan and North America received.



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