Selnor - What ever made you think that the 360 could sustain 12K weekly sales in Japan?

Sony will wait and see how much the 360 price drop effects sales, and how much of a boost the next shipment of 80GB PS3's give.

You are talking to two of the biggest and most illogical xbots around so just give up.  starcraft actually makes some sense sometimes but this captain kirk guy hasn't said one intelligent thing yet.

As Rock on said, as a mindless Xbot I need the last word.  I love the fact that whenever you walk into a flat wall of fact you resort to trying to insult my character.

Remind me?  Who was it that lost our last argument then resorted to writing crude comments on my wall that were a) insulting and b) declaring that you were "done" arguing with me.

So true.

Sony's latest financial result did say that SCE will make over 1,7 billion dollar losses during fiscal year 2008 so it's more than likely that PS3 really any where close to make profit with PS3 HW sales (and that financial result includes profits of PS2 and PSP sales so real losses done by PS3 are much bigger).

XO price drop did over double its sales in Europe, so similar result in US would put it sales some where near 120000 consoles per week, which would be quite good result even it's not match with HUGE sales of Wii.

If MS presents new SKU in E3 it probably will include smaller GPU and maybe even smaller CPU, which would lower XO production cost even more so 50$ price drop wouldn't make MS lose money with XO HW sales and if they can keep attach rate close to 7 with XO games they will have nothing to worry on financial side.

why would you laugh at someone from CityGroup? it's the largest bank in world. it doesn't get any bigger. So this one analyst may have got it slightly wrong, but i bet he's not far off... Sony are driving down the costs of hardware, so it may soon be on a par. marketing and development costs will still be massive though.

Your victories are public; mine are personal. And I still believe that humility is a virtue but:

All you ever do is blare off your opinion as if it's fact. You're very upfront with your opinions-which is fine, but if someone doesn't agree with you, you don't accept anyone's opinion or agree to disagree- you try to slam pro-microsoft propaganda down the person's throat until they're practically barfing your words. 

The last argument consisted of you and I countering every single case we presented to each other. There was but one critical difference in our strategies if I recall correctly. I provided sources; you would try to discredit them. You are so closed minded that I decided that arguing with you is the equivalent of "banging my head against a wall." 

When all was said and done, a thought occurred to me: A well known stereotypical fanboy who has been banned several times for trolling, thinks he has the credibility to discredit every single one of my sources. Things were a very simple question of who do I trust: a radical xbox fanboy or twenty different sources saying the same thing...Hmmmm.

You obviously have very strong beliefs on things from all walks of life, but if you want people to listen to you, you have to try to sound objective, and EARN your credibility. Otherwise no one will listen to you.

Well rather than discussing the last argument in which I too provided sources that were far more recent and valid than you'res, lets discuss whats happened here.  You have provided a 6 month old source that was from a third part analyst, not Sony.  Several people, including a mod, have demonstrated that that source lacks credibility, as Sony's own financial statistics from just two months ago clearly highlight.

You're idea of "humility" was ignoring the discrediting of you're source by those numerous poster's and attacking me as a fanboy in a rather desperate attempt to divert attention from you're flawed argument.  You also ignored the vast majority of my original response to you're first post, presumably because you realized I was correct.  Of course, I wouldn't expect you to give me credit for that. 

I might add that I've only ever been banned once for trolling.  I find that decidedly preferential to you're warnings (and ban?) for personal insults and rudeness.  I'm certain people don't attach too much credibility to someone that resorts to angry outbursts.

2007 Worlds most respected companies

Wow look who is #1

http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2146344/firms-honoured-world-respected

Dont believe google most respected companies and year in year out MS is constantly in the top 10 by study after study.

Sony has not been secretive about their need for profitability. Also, their estimates for sales this year were very conservative.

This leads me to believe they are not going to be interested in a price cut any time soon unless sales completely tank. Which, I don't think will happen because the Sony brand name is so strong in the video game market and blu-ray won the HD media format war.

That said, 360 sales should look solid for the rest of the year, and forum threads like this will keep marching on in a seesaw battle as nothing will be resolved by the end of '08. Wii will still be in front, 360 and PS3 will still be fighting to see who will be second on a weekly basis and the world will keep on turning.