Actually I was complimenting you.  Your being very eloquent.  I personally believe there has been no infiltration or internalisation, but what your accusing me of fits your argument perfectly.

If your happy with a refurbished Xbox 360 (albeit with a 1 year replacement warranty), Game is selling them for $499 bundled with GTAIV (pro version).

They've been 'about to completely fix' the RRoD problem ever since they admitted it was there.

I suppose that where the percentages for PS3/360 end up depends largely on when the gen will end; the PS3 certainly appears to have a permanent WW sales lead and I don't imagine that will change as the consoles continue to mature.

lol hey I like starcraft!!! I was only giving and update on a post I made the other day on here when I left to go home from work :p I've been following this thread... well skimming all the huge chunks of writing, this should get turned into a book

In Defence Of Microsoft: A response to DMeisterJ
By Starcraft
Edited to death by the members of vg chartz
Published by Nintendo (hehe)

hehe you know what, im gonna go and read your original post again! I will be back soon with a light hearted and friendly response! ;) :D

I think we're getting close to where we can both stand up from the table and say, "meh, close enough". Here's the thing that still stands out to me:

"See this is the thing, you haven't pointed out an instance where I have defined this thread as pertaining solely to DMeisterJ's OP. I quite agree that DMeisterJ was responding to what he apparently (I say apparently because he didn't specify that the thread was about HW until AFTER SW came up) saw as a tangent. But he did respond nonetheless and as such his comments are included in this thread, which is a broad response to his thread as a whole. I understand what you are getting at, it just seems that your determined to believe that this thread was always solely grounded in a response to DMeisterJ's OP, which it wasn't."

What gave me that idea was the subtitle "A response to DMeisterJ" and you saying that "he vehemenently declared that GTAIV, far from helping the Xbox 360, is the standard we will look back on and associate with the console's death." This clearly refers to the OP even if he put it in the form of a question. He did not advance that line of questioning at all (that I remember) in subsequent posts, only adding a couple of remarks to things like the unrelated SW post and a shit-ton of clarifications aimed at people refusing to properly read the OP. If you had made the subtitle "A response to thread 25845" (or something equivalent but better-sounding) then it would make sense to include responses to things other than the OP and on-topic discussion descending from it (in this case basically none IIRC).

Probably one of my biggest hangups is this: "DMeisterJ attempted to change his thread to specify that it referred only to hardware ..." Now, does this mean that you do not believe he initially meant the OP to mean this and he tried to restrict it later? Or simply that he was trying to clarify the original meaning, which had always been HW, but was not being responded to as such?

"I think the problem we have here is that you think I am saying more with this thread than I actually am. I was pointing out what is obvious to you and me, but as evidenced by the length of this thread, isn't obvious to many people. You have simply assumed that I am insinuating something I am not."

Perhaps. I do recall making a post about people not accepting that the 360 was getting PS2 owners.

And now I sleep.