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Forums - Sales Discussion - June NPD 2022 Thread

ChiVVITZ said:
DroidKnight said:

I'm one of the ones that had a thread with a title of the PS5 and Xbox Series X neck and neck.  

Within seconds of the adjustments made to the Xbox numbers I immediately brought attention to it and updated my thread title.

Dishonest bullshit.

My thread

Im not talking about ur thread that never gets published outside of this site, I meant the weekly one like this gets published on big gaming news site - https://www.vgchartz.com/article/454165/switch-tops-109m-units-xs-outsells-ps5-worldwide-hardware-estimates-for-june-12-18/

I see.  Sorry, I was only thinking threads.



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ChiVVITZ said:
DroidKnight said:

I'm one of the ones that had a thread with a title of the PS5 and Xbox Series X neck and neck.  

Within seconds of the adjustments made to the Xbox numbers I immediately brought attention to it and updated my thread title.

Dishonest bullshit.

My thread

Im not talking about ur thread that never gets published outside of this site, I meant the weekly one like this gets published on big gaming news site - https://www.vgchartz.com/article/454165/switch-tops-109m-units-xs-outsells-ps5-worldwide-hardware-estimates-for-june-12-18/

I updated the most recent article with the new numbers at the top. 

https://www.vgchartz.com/article/454296/global-hardware-week-26-2022/



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So it can best be summed up like this:
NS: 392K - $300 (for average selling price) = $117.55M (est more lite sold than regular)
PS5: 297K - $480 (for average selling price) = $142.65M (est more disc sold than digital)
XS: 288K - $350 (for average selling price) = $100.89M (est more S sold than X)



darthv72 said:

So it can best be summed up like this:
NS: 392K - $300 (for average selling price) = $117.55M (est more lite sold than regular)
PS5: 297K - $480 (for average selling price) = $142.65M (est more disc sold than digital)
XS: 288K - $350 (for average selling price) = $100.89M (est more S sold than X)

Switch Lite doesn't sell more than the regular. It's the worst selling SKU, hence why Switch's average selling price is pegged at $300.



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RolStoppable said:
darthv72 said:

So it can best be summed up like this:
NS: 392K - $300 (for average selling price) = $117.55M (est more lite sold than regular)
PS5: 297K - $480 (for average selling price) = $142.65M (est more disc sold than digital)
XS: 288K - $350 (for average selling price) = $100.89M (est more S sold than X)

Switch Lite doesn't sell more than the regular. It's the worst selling SKU, hence why Switch's average selling price is pegged at $300.

Given there are three different price points for switch, that $100 delta between a lite and regular can mean the difference of a couple of games. That's why i figured the lite was selling more and leading to higher units but less $$. Like the Series S does for the X.



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darthv72 said:
RolStoppable said:

Switch Lite doesn't sell more than the regular. It's the worst selling SKU, hence why Switch's average selling price is pegged at $300.

Given there are three different price points for switch, that $100 delta between a lite and regular can mean the difference of a couple of games. That's why i figured the lite was selling more and leading to higher units but less $$. Like the Series S does for the X.

The Lite can't be used as a home console, so saving $100 on the hardware is pointless for most gamers.

The more expensive OLED model ($350) sells twice as much as the Lite in America, so the average selling price of the Switch family does indeed result in almost exactly $300. Two OLEDs and one Lite makes $900, so $300 on average; the regular is $300.



Legend11 correctly predicted that GTA IV (360+PS3) would outsell SSBB. I was wrong.

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Looks like PS5 stock could be significantly better in the 2nd half of the year so it should remain ahead of the Xbox Series lifetime for a while still.



Norion said:

Looks like PS5 stock could be significantly better in the 2nd half of the year so it should remain ahead of the Xbox Series lifetime for a while still.

I expect the lead to grow. Specially this year. Ps5 expects higher production and there's little reason to own an Xbox this year.

Either way Xbox has been way over tracked and there won't be any real adjustments since MS dosent release data and vgc won't have anything to back the numbers. 



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These assumed average selling prices show that MS is heavily tapping into Series S, while Sony isn't relying on PS5DE yet, they're not even close to meeting demand. It's perplexing that this gets overlooked and some dudes out here thinking PS5 will decline quickly. It's like PS5DE is not being considered at all. Very strange.

One of the obvious early indicators of Switch being a massive success was "room for pricedrops". Switch selling as well as it did year one at the $300 pricepoint meant that it was going to be a huge platform unless Nintendo made some silly decisions (short lifespan, separate 3DS successor, etc). Back then, a lot of us didn't pay attention to that, and now a similar oversight is taking place with PS5 which isn't really taking advantage of the cheaper SKU some 20 months after launch.

Switch managed to pull it off without any significant reliance on cheaper SKUs or pricedrops. But Nintendo always had that option as a safety net, and Sony also has it with PS5 (the standard model became profitable a few months after launch. Sony is more open than Nintendo to taking losses from hardware, and is also more geared towards digital).

Series X is also yet to meet demand in most markets, but I don't know if it will ever be produced in large enough quantities, and the demand just isn't nearly as strong as PS5 from what I can tell outside potentially the US/UK and a few smaller markets.



Looking at the software charts, I'm sooo glad to Kirby still charting in the top 10 monthly software so far from it's launch period. It might truly become the best selling title in the series at this rate !

(Well ... In the US at least)



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