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Rate the Xbox/Bethesda showcase?

10 7 10.14%
 
9 11 15.94%
 
8 14 20.29%
 
7 10 14.49%
 
6 13 18.84%
 
5 4 5.80%
 
4 5 7.25%
 
3 3 4.35%
 
2/1 1 1.45%
 
Undecided/NA 1 1.45%
 
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The_Liquid_Laser said:

... Microsoft recognizes the importance of exclusive games....



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The_Liquid_Laser said:

Ok, I watched the Microsoft showcase and I have to say something about it.  Disclaimer:  I have never owned an XBox, I don't like Microsoft as a company, and I also think all Bethesda games suck.  (No, I am not joking about any of that.)

That was probably the best XBox presentation I've ever seen.  It was definitely better than the State of Play shown several days ago.  I usually watch these XBox presentations half out of curiosity and half to make fun of them, which is what I did with this one at first.  Then I got to Diablo 4.  That shut me up.  The game looked cool, and they did show off a fair amount of gameplay.  I think I was also partly shocked just seeing a classic Blizzard franchise shown as a Microsoft exclusive.  I have fond memories of Diablo 1, because it was the first game I played on the internet.  Good times.

I've also gotta say they had a good variety of games, and not just the cliche FPS and Third Person Shooters.  They also showed off a whole lot of games, and a few looked like games I might try even if they were not as interesting as Diablo 4.  (Also, I am curious if HK: Silksong and the Persona games are coming to Switch.  If they are not in the next Nintendo presentation, then I'll have my answer.)  They had an impressive amount of content, little filler, and they only showed games releasing in the next 12 months.

So, I am not ready to buy an XBox yet.  But I'll say they are moving ahead of Playstation in my mind as far as quality and quantity of games.  If Nintendo's lineup takes a nosedive, or if XBox continues to improve for the next couple of years, then I'll need to start thinking about how to play these games (i.e. maybe a PC instead of a console...we'll see).

Overall: 7/10

Diablo 4 is not an Xbox exclusive. I'm not sure what gave you that impression. 

Hollow Knight Silksong was already announced for the Switch, and will almost surely be announced for PlayStation as well. The Persona games seem to be going to PlayStation, but not switch. 

Seems like you're overestimating how many of those games were exclusives. 

The_Liquid_Laser said:
Mnementh said:

Yeah, I agree mostly. One addition: Gamepass. That nearly everything shown is on gamepass is amazing value. Most interestingly Diablo IV isn't, but I guess that might change once the acquisition is done.

A question for you: what did you think of Ravenlok? I am impressed by the unique artstyle and also I am a sucker for Alice in Wonderland, so that is good. gameplay seems also tolerable.

There were several games I put into the "maybe" category.  Ravenlok was one.  I'd have to wait and see how it reviews and such.  

As for Gamepass, it is kind of the opposite direction of where I want gaming to go.  I like all physical.  However, I recognize that it is a good value, and I currently think Microsoft is doing everything right to make it succeed.  The biggest difference between Gamepass and Stadia is that Microsoft recognizes the importance of exclusive games.  I would bet, if someone did a technical breakdown, that Stadia was running on better tech than Gamepass.  It doesn't matter though.  Gaming is about games.  Microsoft has the games.  Microsoft just showed off a ton of exclusives including a few really big games that are going to draw people to Gamepass.  Google also gave up quickly when they discovered how hard it is to succeed in gaming.  Microsoft does not intend to give up.  They have been around for several generations and now they are investing heavily toward their all digital future.  Gamepass is going to do well. 

Microsoft is doing everything right currently.  Sony is not.  They are going to get blindsided over the next couple of years when they see that sales are not going their way anymore.  In fact, gaming is currently changing in some fairly permanent ways.  There are a lot of consumers out there who have tried hybrid consoles and will not want to go back to a TV only system.  There are other consumers who are going to try Gamepass, and then will never go back to anything other than a subscription service.  The way I see it, Microsoft and Nintendo are currently carving out their part of the market for the next decade or two, and Sony is mostly just standing by and letting it all happen.

MS is clearly in the best position they've ever been in. That's not for debate. 

But Sony is doing great as well. Sony is pushing their own Gamepass competitor, expanding their back catalog of PS1/PS2/PSP classics, expanding their first party studios, as well as supporting third parties and securing third party exclusives.

There are some aspects where MS is doing better at some of these, especially their emulation and buying publishers. But Sony is still doing a lot. 



Very good presentation, I gave it a 9. If I was a Xbox consumer I would be totally pleased watching this

Starfield looks incredible, glad to see Bethesda keep releasing many of the generation-defining games, it's the only thing I'll be missing though, as the other games I'm interested all seems to be all cross-platform. I plan to get a Steam Deck but Starfield is likely not able to run well on that

I'm conflicted, I'm not planning to get a PC, because I want a PS5 to play the Sony-exclusives plus a bunch of JP AAA games, plus instead a PC I want a Steam Deck because I want to play my current library portable. Is there any Xbox plan to release a streaming service to play their exclusives? Internet connection is a drag in Brazil but it can improve in some years.

Another possibility is to a get a 2nd gen Series S late in the generation (2026-2027) only to play those exclusives, but I don't know how well the late-gen games will possibly run on Series S, guess I'll need to wait

Edit: Also, sometimes I feel like everyone here have every console released on earth plus a bunch of PCs and a Steamdeck, because damn I never see so much obsession with EXCLUSIVES, EXCLUSIVES, ONLY EXCLUSIVES MATTER. Like... what matter is the game is going to be released in a pretty good state and as soon as possible, it's literally the only thing that matters for a owner of a console. Do you realize most of people don't have option and needs to play whatever comes to their console? It's literally how Nintendo fans have been surviving for like 25 years now. It's like I was watching two extreme opposites, absolutely any half-assed 15 years late PS3 irrelevant port get celebrated for Switch owners like it was such a miracle, a divine gift from studios for supporting the system, while for Microsoft is the total opposite, isn't it a day one 300-million budget AAA 95+ Metacritic-scored exclusive that won't ever be released anywhere else? Then it doesn't matter, MS line up sucks. 

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IcaroRibeiro said:

Is there any Xbox plan to release a streaming service to play their exclusives? Internet connection is a drag in Brazil but it can improve in some years.

They already have: XCloud.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_Cloud_Gaming

I see in the list that Brazil is already listed among the supported countries. As far as I can see most games they have on Gamepass are also on Xcloud, but not all. As far as I know it is tied to Gamepass Ultimate. I haven't tried it yet, so I can't say how well it performs (which also would only applyto my location and my internet).



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The presentation in itself was good, in terms of the type and flow of the show. The games shown, and the clarity as to exclusivity or not, not so much.

I agree more so with Solidrev here, though not entirely. They're a little more down on the show than I was, but it wasn't the show itself, it was the content.

There were a few games that looked ok and may have promise, though they clearly left Starfield until last for good reason, as it was what saved the show from being quite mediocre in my view. What was shown of Starfield wasn't enough to get me hyped, but by that point I was expecting a Halo Infinite early reveal, yet instead it was actually reasonable.



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So we at that point already huh? where random nobody youtuber thinks Xbox event is worst ever lol. If you watched this event and thought it was the worst ever then ..... Yikes.



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VersusEvil said:

So we at that point already huh? where random nobody youtuber thinks Xbox event is worst ever lol. If you watched this event and thought it was the worst ever then ..... Yikes.

Elon Musk used to be a random nobody. Then he was a con man who wouldn't be able to deliver. Then he was the savior of humanity. Now he's just bad.

The father is pretty balanced when it comes to all systems. He does seem to prefer PC gaming though. 

His kid is the XB fan, and isn't a Sony fan other than for a few of their biggest exclusives.

In the video the father mentions how he's surprised the kid was less happy with the show than he was.

I'm also not sure why only YouTubers with massive audiences have worthy opinion's, or maybe YouTubers don't matter at all?

I didn't think the show was terrible, and worst ever seems real bad, but I also don't think it was a fantastic show. 



The_Liquid_Laser said:

[...]  (Also, I am curious if HK: Silksong and the Persona games are coming to Switch.  If they are not in the next Nintendo presentation, then I'll have my answer.)  [...]

Hollow Knight: Silksong is coming to Switch.  It's listed on Nintendo's store already:

https://www.nintendo.com/store/products/hollow-knight-silksong-switch/

And I wouldn't worry about Persona skipping the Switch until the Nintendo Direct has come and gone.  Although it's only a rumor as of now, Zippo (who has a fairly good track record) did share this on his blog, regarding Persona 3 & 4 anyway:

https://zippospeaks.blogspot.com/2022/06/they-announced-things.html



Anybody catch that second show case? I could not get throw half of it withoud dosing off. Dint finish it. Was there anything of sunstance on it?



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ConservagameR said:

The presentation in itself was good, in terms of the type and flow of the show. The games shown, and the clarity as to exclusivity or not, not so much.

I agree more so with Solidrev here, though not entirely. They're a little more down on the show than I was, but it wasn't the show itself, it was the content.

There were a few games that looked ok and may have promise, though they clearly left Starfield until last for good reason, as it was what saved the show from being quite mediocre in my view. What was shown of Starfield wasn't enough to get me hyped, but by that point I was expecting a Halo Infinite early reveal, yet instead it was actually reasonable.

I like SolidRev, he is an entertaining guy. I've been watching his content for years, but the guy has a clear bias with certain genres/styles of games. He is a dudebro for the most part. Anything that isn't some hardcore action game, gritty shooter, racing, he is going to dismiss it entirely. It's his opinion which is fine, and he makes it clear that it's his opinion. If you agree with his taste in games then cool, but most of us on a gaming forum enjoy more diversity than he does. If I want to know if Calisto Protocol is good, if the newest CoD is trash or not, or if a new piece of hardware is good, I'll watch his video. I would never share one of his videos to try and validate if something is good or not lol. 

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