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Nah, they hate it! 7 15.56%
 
No, FF > LoD 6 13.33%
 
No, because of you 7 15.56%
 
Maybe, SE can try it 1 2.22%
 
Maybe, just... maybe 2 4.44%
 
Yes, because of you 5 11.11%
 
Yes, LoD > FF 3 6.67%
 
Yeah, they will! 2 4.44%
 
What is a LoD? 4 8.89%
 
Rather see Knack 3 by Square 8 17.78%
 
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CGI-Quality said:
Qwark said:

You also need to include the size of an acquisition, if you say party has made more acquisitions, so it's still party B it's turn. Otherwise you would make the argument that Bluepoint acquisition is as significant as say the acquisition of Bethesda.

The size will only matter when new and Xbox/PC exclusive, games release and are large hits. In fact, until COD is exclusive, the Activision acquisition will remain largely inconsequential. But, all of  that really has nothing to do with what my overall point.

The point was despite who has more money, companies with less are out there making moves. One of them will never “have it all”.

If Sony continues to get smaller studios with no IP like Deviation next or something and MS goes and gets Square and Capcom and SEGA and keeps all those IP off PS it will shrink to the point of irrelevance.  Maybe like Gamecube levels if they're lucky



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Robert_Downey_Jr. said:
CGI-Quality said:

The size will only matter when new and Xbox/PC exclusive, games release and are large hits. In fact, until COD is exclusive, the Activision acquisition will remain largely inconsequential. But, all of  that really has nothing to do with what my overall point.

The point was despite who has more money, companies with less are out there making moves. One of them will never “have it all”.

If Sony continues to get smaller studios with no IP like Deviation next or something and MS goes and gets Square and Capcom and SEGA and keeps all those IP off PS it will shrink to the point of irrelevance.  Maybe like Gamecube levels if they're lucky

Nah.



                                                                                                                                                           

CGI-Quality said:
Robert_Downey_Jr. said:

If Sony continues to get smaller studios with no IP like Deviation next or something and MS goes and gets Square and Capcom and SEGA and keeps all those IP off PS it will shrink to the point of irrelevance.  Maybe like Gamecube levels if they're lucky

Nah.

nah to MS buying those or nah to Sony shrinking that much as a result?  Or both?



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Robert_Downey_Jr. said:
CGI-Quality said:

Nah.

nah to MS buying those or nah to Sony shrinking that much as a result?  Or both?

Your assumptions are simply too strong and reactionary. Wait a while.



                                                                                                                                                           

CGI-Quality said:
Robert_Downey_Jr. said:

nah to MS buying those or nah to Sony shrinking that much as a result?  Or both?

Your assumptions are simply too strong and reactionary. Wait a while.

Again both or just One or the other?  The assumption that MS will buy the big IP or the assumption of how that will effect the install base of PS?



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Robert_Downey_Jr. said:
CGI-Quality said:

Your assumptions are simply too strong and reactionary. Wait a while.

Again both or just One or the other?  The assumption that MS will buy the big IP or the assumption of how that will effect the install base of PS?

I'm saying, in general, you're being reactionary, and that has lead you to make some big assumptions. Simply give these things time to take form before we doom and gloom a company.

Last edited by CGI-Quality - on 15 May 2022

                                                                                                                                                           

Robert_Downey_Jr. said:
CGI-Quality said:

The size will only matter when new and Xbox/PC exclusive, games release and are large hits. In fact, until COD is exclusive, the Activision acquisition will remain largely inconsequential. But, all of  that really has nothing to do with what my overall point.

The point was despite who has more money, companies with less are out there making moves. One of them will never “have it all”.

If Sony continues to get smaller studios with no IP like Deviation next or something and MS goes and gets Square and Capcom and SEGA and keeps all those IP off PS it will shrink to the point of irrelevance.  Maybe like Gamecube levels if they're lucky

This is incredibly unrealistic on both points.

There are a lot of barriers preventing MS from doing that in the first place.

Legally, they would have trouble. Even the Activision deal is fairly likely to not go through, it's a lot closer to a coin flip than it is to a guarantee. Various governments are going to push very hard against major consolidation. It's only going to get harder for them afterwards.

MS can also only buy companies that are willing to sell. Capcom is a family owned business for example, they're very unlikely to sell.

MS is only going to buy things that they think have value. Warner Bros Interactive is a pretty successful publisher, but they're probably not going to get sold, because the asking price is too high for pretty much anyone. It's a lot less risky to spend a billion to try poaching a lot of those developers than it is to spend 4 billion to buy the gaming business outright.

Sony is also not going to be complacent.

They've had a lot of success with building their brand. Sony Bungie Deal Generated More Twitter Buzz Than Microsoft Activision Deal



Right. These things all have a process. You cannot just go buying any and everything. It doesn’t work like that, no matter how rich you are.