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Forums - Sales Discussion - January NPD 2022 Thread + Predictions

eva01beserk said:
trunkswd said:

Right now it looks all 3 were pretty close for the month. If more data comes out I'll adjust them some more. Here are our US numbers for January after adjustments. 

PS5: 350,277

XS: 326,664

NS: 302,850

what did you guys have it at before the adjustments?

Before adjustments here is what we had in the US for January:

NS: 382,850

XS: 297,664

PS5: 230,277



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I was expecting the Switch to be down YoY, but, uh...

The holidays must have completely gutted U.S. stock. Rough stuff. Hopefully stock will improve and tax season will give it a boost.



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trunkswd said:
eva01beserk said:

what did you guys have it at before the adjustments?

Before adjustments here is what we had in the US for January:

NS: 382,850

XS: 297,664

PS5: 230,277

That's a huge undertrack for ps5. 



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not sure if switch really has that much of a issue with supplies. I saw a few switch console in my nearest target. I also saw a few series S. No ps5 or series X.



Angelv577 said:

not sure if switch really has that much of a issue with supplies. I saw a few switch console in my nearest target. I also saw a few series S. No ps5 or series X.

What you are seeing in mid-February doesn’t necessarily relate to the situation in January.

Stock could have been dire early in the month and gradually improved to the point where it’s at now.

Also we have confirmation from Nintendo during the quarterly report that shortages have been going on in the US since Black Friday.



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*sigh* It looks like the well has totally dried up for NPD numbers. Even the prediction threads on Era don't have anything to base the rankings on anymore, and Welfare is moving to predicting hardware revenue for now. I guess it's finally the end of the line, people.



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Shadow1980 said:

*sigh* It looks like the well has totally dried up for NPD numbers. Even the prediction threads on Era don't have anything to base the rankings on anymore, and Welfare is moving to predicting hardware revenue for now. I guess it's finally the end of the line, people.



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Shadow1980 said:

*sigh* It looks like the well has totally dried up for NPD numbers. Even the prediction threads on Era don't have anything to base the rankings on anymore, and Welfare is moving to predicting hardware revenue for now. I guess it's finally the end of the line, people.

Man things would be so nice if the data was as transparent as it is for the box office. I'm not into that stuff much but it was still nice seeing Endgame's journey in detail.



Norion said:

Man things would be so nice if the data was as transparent as it is for the box office. I'm not into that stuff much but it was still nice seeing Endgame's journey in detail.

It used to be at one point. For most of the 00s, we'd get full hardware and at least Top 20 software from the NPD Group. Gen 6 and the first half or so of Gen 7 was the most well-documented period for video game sales in the U.S. Then around 2010 they gradually started to reduce what they'd share. First they cut software sales down to just the Top 10, then by around the mid 2010s they just stopped sharing any numbers. Leakers kept giving us numbers, and for a very brief time last an NPD rep started giving numbers again, but that ended after several months and the leaks kept getting plugged. Now there are no leaks.

This is why I suggested several years ago that there should be some sort of crowdsourced sales tracker to serve as an alternative to the NPD Group. Hardly anybody thought it was worthwhile, and some thought it was a ridiculous thing to even suggest. But since there are no alternatives, there's a very good chance we'll never see how much any console or game sells in the U.S. ever again.

The video games industry has a serious transparency issue, and this certainly doesn't help that perception.

The thing is, Japan never had this problem. While Media Create did the same thing as NPD and put all of their data behind an exorbitant paywall, we still have a competitor in Famitsu, which has been publishing sales figures since the late 90s, for free. Of course, what sets Famitsu apart from MC and NPD is that it's a video game magazine, not a market research firm. I think that's why we've long needed someone out there doing sales tracking that didn't have data from said tracking being their main source of income.



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So does this mean we have to wait for quaterly reports now for pkaystation and nintendo? And nothing from xbox?



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