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What excites you most about TGA?

The winners 0 0%
 
The tears of the losers 1 7.69%
 
Geoff getting visibly frustrated 0 0%
 
Game Announcements 7 53.85%
 
The guy who voices "world premiere" 2 15.38%
 
When the credits role 0 0%
 
Revealing viewership from last year to brag 0 0%
 
Josef fares... Anything to do with the man 2 15.38%
 
Live Music 0 0%
 
A rumored game once again not bring announced 1 7.69%
 
Total:13

Ahhh it's that time of year where I'm reminded that I don't play that many new titles during a given year.



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Zippy6 said:
Azzanation said:

Lets look at last year and this year.

Half Life Alyx is considered one of the best games ever made, sat as one of the best reviewed games that year and has a great User score, only got nominated for VR GOTY.. wasnt eligible. 

Forza Horizon 5, same deal, one of if not the best recieved and played games this year, offering some of the best visuals, sound design, value and is the highest rated game this year isnt eligible. 

Some shifty stuff happening at The Game Awards. Im sorry if you dont agree but its quite obvious that they want to choose games that suit thier viewerships instead.

Half Life Alyx WAS eligible, it didn't get enough votes to make it into the top 5. You are the under the misguided idea that highest metascore means it will get most nominations.

The nominations are made by the "entire editorial staff" of "over 100 media outlets". How many of these people played Half-Life Alyx? There's the limit on how many of these people can nominate it, it's a VR game so likely not that many. Next: how many of these people would pick it as their favourite game of the year? Note: Favourite game, not game they'd give the highest numerical score.

Here is how the nominees are chosen:

"Nominees for most categories of The Game Awards are chosen by an international jury of over 100 global media and influencer outlets, selected for their history of critical evaluation of video games.

Specialized juries also convene for other categories including esports and accessibility.

Each voting outlet completes a confidential, unranked ballot based on the collective and diverse opinion of its entire editorial staff, listing out its top five choices in each category.

Ballots are tabulated, and the five games that appear on the most ballots are put forth as nominees. In the event of a tie, six (or more) nominees will be announced in a category."

I am not saying Metascores is what wins GOTY, i never have and it never was the case. However it definitely helps to have the conversation. FH5 is the highest rated game this year and its not even eligible to be a nominee..

I dont believe in the system. I dont believe in these 100+ critics. I believe its all about putting games in the overall GOTY award that will make a splash in viewership to bolster the show, thats why we see Fortnite pop its head multiple times or Cyberpunk 2066. I dont care what they try to sell you in saying "we have 100 critics who vote" nonsense. Its no different to if EA came out and said we build true games for true gamers. Same crap, different bucket.

You cant have 2 years running where some of the best overall games don't get the nod for GOTY. If the critics havnt played those games than wtf is the point in having thier opinion? Its an award for the best game for that year, not a popularity contest which is what it seems to be.



eva01beserk said:

I get what you mean and sort of agree. But at the end your trying to fight what genre of games the most people love. Even if you change the media outlets they would just gravitate to whats most popular cuz that what makes them money. Its like streamers going after the most popular games. How many of them say openly they hate COD but play it anyways? They know its what people want and makes them money. 

I know, but I just can't help but see this as being insanely mundane and predictable, to a point where I've gotta hand it to the bean counters working for the publishers/investors, these people are regarded as whales that net them such money, and well, I guess they have a point in seeing them as that (much as I hate that name).

I openly hate CoD and stopped playing it, same with R* games, but that's because I chose to stick to what I said I disliked and instead play other games instead. Remember the MW2 boycott years ago?, yeah those people lacked anything of a spine.

I still see streamers out there making something for themselves, without having to go to the most played games (I watch a streamer who literally just plays old Resi games and modded Resi Outbreak, and he gets tons of donations and even gets to collab with RE Remake and OG voice actors, which is something rare).



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Chazore said:
eva01beserk said:

I get what you mean and sort of agree. But at the end your trying to fight what genre of games the most people love. Even if you change the media outlets they would just gravitate to whats most popular cuz that what makes them money. Its like streamers going after the most popular games. How many of them say openly they hate COD but play it anyways? They know its what people want and makes them money. 

I know, but I just can't help but see this as being insanely mundane and predictable, to a point where I've gotta hand it to the bean counters working for the publishers/investors, these people are regarded as whales that net them such money, and well, I guess they have a point in seeing them as that (much as I hate that name).

I openly hate CoD and stopped playing it, same with R* games, but that's because I chose to stick to what I said I disliked and instead play other games instead. Remember the MW2 boycott years ago?, yeah those people lacked anything of a spine.

I still see streamers out there making something for themselves, without having to go to the most played games (I watch a streamer who literally just plays old Resi games and modded Resi Outbreak, and he gets tons of donations and even gets to collab with RE Remake and OG voice actors, which is something rare).

Pretty much what im thinking. They become coorporatized. And this is also coming from someone that my favourite genres are the ones that usually win. But knowing the games that win from a mile away just makes the awards seems meaningless. 

Im honestly probably just tune in for what ever reveals might happen . 



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Man, some of the discourse here is pretty...strange. I don't understand this 'it got the highest metacritic so it should be the game of the year' arguments. Like, review scores are often meant as a metric of how well it did something specific, Forza Horizon is an outstanding RACING game, but it's still just a racing game. that doesn't mean it's not great, it just means it's a bit more niche. It didn't and won't have the impact of a Death Loop or Returnal or Ratchet & Clank or Metroid Dread or It Takes Two.

It's such a strange phenomenon because, like, I do agree it was one of the best at what it did but just like sports titles it seems weird to give it a game of the year award. with no story, no characters, no real plot, just arcadey racing - even if it's GOOD arcadey racing - it makes perfect sense that it didn't leave as much of an impact even if it did review well.

I don't even like The Last of Us, but I agree with it winning because it was the most artistically bold, it was the best designed, it was the most creative and original, it was the one that was most daring. Forza Horizon 5 is a great racing game but I wouldn't nominate it for GOTY any more than Fifa 2022 or whatever football game is out. IT's just a refinement on a game genre that was mastered years ago. that makes it amazing, but impact matters and once Forza Horizon 6 comes out, nobody's gonna be talking about Forza Horizon 5. It's just an iterative take on an established franchise. That does matter.



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Azzanation said:
Zippy6 said:

Half Life Alyx WAS eligible, it didn't get enough votes to make it into the top 5. You are the under the misguided idea that highest metascore means it will get most nominations.

The nominations are made by the "entire editorial staff" of "over 100 media outlets". How many of these people played Half-Life Alyx? There's the limit on how many of these people can nominate it, it's a VR game so likely not that many. Next: how many of these people would pick it as their favourite game of the year? Note: Favourite game, not game they'd give the highest numerical score.

Here is how the nominees are chosen:

"Nominees for most categories of The Game Awards are chosen by an international jury of over 100 global media and influencer outlets, selected for their history of critical evaluation of video games.

Specialized juries also convene for other categories including esports and accessibility.

Each voting outlet completes a confidential, unranked ballot based on the collective and diverse opinion of its entire editorial staff, listing out its top five choices in each category.

Ballots are tabulated, and the five games that appear on the most ballots are put forth as nominees. In the event of a tie, six (or more) nominees will be announced in a category."

I am not saying Metascores is what wins GOTY, i never have and it never was the case. However it definitely helps to have the conversation. FH5 is the highest rated game this year and its not even eligible to be a nominee..

I dont believe in the system. I dont believe in these 100+ critics. I believe its all about putting games in the overall GOTY award that will make a splash in viewership to bolster the show, thats why we see Fortnite pop its head multiple times or Cyberpunk 2066. I dont care what they try to sell you in saying "we have 100 critics who vote" nonsense. Its no different to if EA came out and said we build true games for true gamers. Same crap, different bucket.

You cant have 2 years running where some of the best overall games don't get the nod for GOTY. If the critics havnt played those games than wtf is the point in having thier opinion? Its an award for the best game for that year, not a popularity contest which is what it seems to be.

Is so hard to believe the media outlets just choose action adventure because that's the most popular genre and the ones that appeals the most?

If the point was to bring in views, they would nominee anything that was highly popular like FIFA or COD. Instead we see indies 



Returnal and forza deserved a nomination,make the list bigger , its ok.

Lets hope ratchet wins but i dont think they will give to it, insomniac deserves everything.



 

I'm glad to see Ratchet & Clank Rift Apart doing great. But I'm surprised to not see Monster Hunter Rise... It was last year ?



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CloudxTifa said:

I'm glad to see Ratchet & Clank Rift Apart doing great. But I'm surprised to not see Monster Hunter Rise... It was last year ?

MHR is nominated for best RPG. It launched March 26th.



Kakadu18 said:
CloudxTifa said:

I'm glad to see Ratchet & Clank Rift Apart doing great. But I'm surprised to not see Monster Hunter Rise... It was last year ?

MHR is nominated for best RPG. It launched March 26th.

Thank you. So I'm very surprised to not see it nominated at the Game of the Year. It got a 88% metacritic score. That's strange...



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