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Forums - Gaming Discussion - Dragon Quest composer Koichi Sugiyama has passed away at age 90.

Just going to throw this in here. Nobody is condoning rape, and please refrain from calling people whores (which is demeaning in its own right). While this man has a history of being problematic (and that is an understatement), he is dead, no need to fight about it amongst yourselves. Please try to remain respectful towards each other to say the least.



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Leynos said:
CaptainExplosion said:

I wouldn't judge others so much if they weren't always judging me for minor infractions I've made, and you ignored how Jumpin keeps slandering me AND the fact that he called me incestuous just for caring about my mother. How about taking a good long look at people BESIDES ME?

Leynos said:

No rest for the wicked. I never mourn a nazi.

Neither do I. Especially one who OPENLY LAUGHED AT THE SUICIDES OF MEMBERS OF THE LGBT COMMUNITY. Sceptic shock is a horrible way to die, which befits what a horrible man Sugiyama was in the end.

I'm not laughing I just feel the world didn't lose anything.

I didn't say you were laughing, just that he was laughing at LGBT suicides in Japan. He doesn't deserve to be mourned.



CaptainExplosion said:
Leynos said:

I'm not laughing I just feel the world didn't lose anything.

I didn't say you were laughing, just that he was laughing at LGBT suicides in Japan. He doesn't deserve to be mourned.

Thats your opinion.

People could have enjoyed his music, and will in future miss it, if its drastically differnt in DQ games.
Its okay for people to mourn someone that does good in the gameing industry (reguardless of personal matters they have).



Leynos said:
CaptainExplosion said:

They need to build a gay bar on that hill just to rub in his face that LGBTs are real people.

Isn't Pokemon a gay bar? Poke a mon? Poke a man?

No it's poke a monster so it could be very apt



Mnementh said:

I see online people celebrating his death and this is bad. He was a bad person, probably even evil. But nobody deserves death wishes or the death being celebrating. Such actions make oneself a bad person.

That said, I think Shadow put it best: good artist, terrible political stances. Yes, mixed bag indeed.

It sort of depends on what the person has done. I can see people, for instance, celebrating Hitler's death. But for me, it's gotta be along those extreme lines before its justified.

As far as I go, even when people like Hitler die, it's still a sad event. We has human beings shouldn't HAVE to celebrate anyone's death. And the fact that we occasionally do is just a tragedy all around, and an indictment on where we are as a species. 

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Bristow9091 said:

Honestly never really been too attached to Dragon Quest music and found most of it to be mediocre in comparison to other Square Enix games or JRPGs in general to be honest... it all sounds too samey to me, but maybe there are songs I've not heard that may change my mind. I have mixed feelings because he was an awful person, but I know plenty of people enjoyed his music. Condolences to his family though.

I agree DQ music was never special for me either, but I guess music composers com Square were just better compared to Enix and the only reason why we associated them is because they merged, but even after the merge I guess the company kept their own team and staff working in the same franchises, that's why Dragon Quest OST didn't become much better...

On topic, I don't know what this guy did, seems like he was a bad person, so I at least wish his family the best



IcaroRibeiro said:
Bristow9091 said:

Honestly never really been too attached to Dragon Quest music and found most of it to be mediocre in comparison to other Square Enix games or JRPGs in general to be honest... it all sounds too samey to me, but maybe there are songs I've not heard that may change my mind. I have mixed feelings because he was an awful person, but I know plenty of people enjoyed his music. Condolences to his family though.

I agree DQ music was never special for me either, but I guess music composers com Square were just better compared to Enix and the only reason why we associated them is because they merged, but even after the merge I guess the company kept their own team and staff working in the same franchises, that's why Dragon Quest OST didn't become much better...

On topic, I don't know what this guy did, seems like he was a bad person, so I at least wish his family the best

Switching to this song in DQXI-S was such a joy. It just never gets old. His music was more sweeping grand pieces than catchy tunes like FF. I won't take away rom the mans talent. As a person he can go to hell if there is a place. I would not say one was better than the other rather than different styles and making music that fits better with their respected series.



Bite my shiny metal cockpit!