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Kyuu said:
DonFerrari said:

Did you had prior confirmation of SM2 and Wolverine before everyone else?

Wolverine isn't a household "gaming" name, not the kind of surprise annoucement I was dying for, but you're right that it's a highlight, hence I praised Insomniac. I understand all the excitement from Marvel and Insomniac fans and am looking forward to it myself, but it isn't coming anytime before 2024 and the IP doesn't ring the same in my old-gamer ear as countless classic gaming IP's.

I know I'm letting my subjectivity bleed in, but there is a difference between a beloved "gaming IP" being revived and a "comics IP" being adopted. Countless Marvel superheroes are getting adopted left and right everywhere; doesn't pack as much punch among core gamers as Metal Gear being remade, Silent Hill rebooted, or Bloodborne getting a sequel.

I think you underestimate how much overlap there is between gamers, movie fans and comic fans.

I've never read a Marvel comic, and most likely never will, but this is still much more exciting to me than any of those you mentioned because I love the X-Men/Wolverine movies.



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Kyuu said:

I know I'm letting my subjectivity bleed in, but there is a difference between a beloved "gaming IP" being revived and a "comics IP" being adopted. Countless Marvel superheroes are getting adopted left and right everywhere; doesn't pack as much punch among core gamers as Metal Gear being remade, Silent Hill rebooted, or Bloodborne getting a sequel.

Considering how average these Marvel games are and look to be, an Insomniac developed Wolverine is not only incredibly unexpected, but incredibly exciting too. 

It was CG, which is lame, but what a great announcement, definitely on par with the likes of a new SH or BB game. 



KLXVER said:
fauzman said:

I think you may have been overhyped. I never thought it would be a massive change but mostly more of the same. But the story in GOW was so good that this wasn't a problem for me. The only issue i had with the 2018 game was a lack of people and cities so hopefully we get to see more of those. 

I just thought it would excite me as much as the last one did. It was just so much like the last GOW that it already felt like Ive played it.

Well it would have been hard to match the changes of the pool rev game. A new setting, new characters & gods, a more mature and introspective Kratos. I dont think this was ever going to top that. And i expect this game to be far more over the top.

Anyway we will get more info over the next year, and i for one am very very excited for this one. 



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fauzman said:
KLXVER said:

I just thought it would excite me as much as the last one did. It was just so much like the last GOW that it already felt like Ive played it.

Well it would have been hard to match the changes of the pool rev game. A new setting, new characters & gods, a more mature and introspective Kratos. I dont think this was ever going to top that. And i expect this game to be far more over the top.

Anyway we will get more info over the next year, and i for one am very very excited for this one. 

Im excited for sure. Just not itching to play it. I have no problem waiting however long they need to finish it.



Kotor remake is a timed exclusive. Its been confirmed by the Dec's. They just haven't revealed how long the timed exclusivity is for. Its all over the Internet as its a big talk atm. 

Fei-Hung said:

When I finished watching this I felt meh. Then a few hours later, I realised we got:

GOWR gameplay and it has more enemy variety and bosses from the looks. And sledging!

Wolverine and Insomniac with hints of Hulk, possibly set in the same Marvel Game Universe Sony is making meaning we might get Deadpool in there too and crossover stories. The bar Wolverine was in is famous in Marvel. Deadpool visits it often too. Wolverine trailer probably had more hidden details than people realised.

Spidey 2 with both MM and PP, Kraven and Venom. This will be insane.

KotoR Remake. Only the best ever Star Wars game ever made. This is Sonys big get to counter ES and it makes total sense. Launch exclusive made with the help of SIE and published by Sony. Wondering if this will be launch exclusive the same way FF7R was considering how pally Disney and Sony are.

Project Eve. I miss me some hack and slash and this ticked all the right boxes and looked insane. Was multiplat but now full exclusive.

GT7 looks amazing. As they said, they've taken all that was good from previous GT games and added it to this. Can't wait.

I realised why at first I thought this was meh. I didn't get any news or updates on:

Bloodborne
New From exclusive
TLOU2 ps5 version with fractions
New ND IP
Nothing on Resistance
Nothing on KZ
Nothing on Twisted Metal
Nothing on Infamous

It seems like Sony showed stuff, but has held plenty back. There was no news on PS+ and PSNow either.

Here is to hoping we get a PSX with more info by year end.



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Ka-pi96 said:
Kyuu said:

Wolverine isn't a household "gaming" name, not the kind of surprise annoucement I was dying for, but you're right that it's a highlight, hence I praised Insomniac. I understand all the excitement from Marvel and Insomniac fans and am looking forward to it myself, but it isn't coming anytime before 2024 and the IP doesn't ring the same in my old-gamer ear as countless classic gaming IP's.

I know I'm letting my subjectivity bleed in, but there is a difference between a beloved "gaming IP" being revived and a "comics IP" being adopted. Countless Marvel superheroes are getting adopted left and right everywhere; doesn't pack as much punch among core gamers as Metal Gear being remade, Silent Hill rebooted, or Bloodborne getting a sequel.

I think you underestimate how much overlap there is between gamers, movie fans and comic fans.

I've never read a Marvel comic, and most likely never will, but this is still much more exciting to me than any of those you mentioned because I love the X-Men/Wolverine movies.

You're right. I'm an old fashioned fool and something of a purist like many forum dwellers and old gamers, particularly those growing up playing Japanese games. X-Men is actually my favorite superhero series and am very much looking forward to a (hopefully) well-made, gritty, M rated, lineral-ish Wolverine game with a focus on combat, storytelling and visuals. But the announcement just didn't move me. CGI and being too far off didn't help.

That said, it's clear that people are losing their minds over it, fingers crossed the final product will be worth it. 

twintail said:
Kyuu said:

I know I'm letting my subjectivity bleed in, but there is a difference between a beloved "gaming IP" being revived and a "comics IP" being adopted. Countless Marvel superheroes are getting adopted left and right everywhere; doesn't pack as much punch among core gamers as Metal Gear being remade, Silent Hill rebooted, or Bloodborne getting a sequel.

Considering how average these Marvel games are and look to be, an Insomniac developed Wolverine is not only incredibly unexpected, but incredibly exciting too. 

It was CG, which is lame, but what a great announcement, definitely on par with the likes of a new SH or BB game. 

You may be right but it's a Marvel adaptation and one of too many. I was more amazed by Insomniac's insane productivity than the announcement itself lol; just not a huge fan of adaptations in general. I like X-Men best as movies (because it's the form that properly introduced me to the series), The Last of Us as a game. A Bloodborne game excites me more than an Avatar game, a James Cameron film excites me more than a hypothetical Bloodborne movie, no matter the production values.

Adaptations can be excellent, but my standard reaction to their announcements is generally lukewarm. I was under the impression that most "core" gamers felt the same way, but I'm probably wrong coz the lines between the different fiction mediums are more blurred today than ever.



Kyuu said:
Ka-pi96 said:

I think you underestimate how much overlap there is between gamers, movie fans and comic fans.

I've never read a Marvel comic, and most likely never will, but this is still much more exciting to me than any of those you mentioned because I love the X-Men/Wolverine movies.

You're right. I'm an old fashioned fool and something of a purist like many forum dwellers and old gamers, particularly those growing up playing Japanese games. X-Men is actually my favorite superhero series and am very much looking forward to a (hopefully) well-made, gritty, M rated, lineral-ish Wolverine game with a focus on combat, storytelling and visuals. But the announcement just didn't move me. CGI and being too far off didn't help.

That said, it's clear that people are losing their minds over it, fingers crossed the final product will be worth it. 

twintail said:

Considering how average these Marvel games are and look to be, an Insomniac developed Wolverine is not only incredibly unexpected, but incredibly exciting too. 

It was CG, which is lame, but what a great announcement, definitely on par with the likes of a new SH or BB game. 

You may be right but it's a Marvel adaptation and one of too many. I was more amazed by Insomniac's insane productivity than the announcement itself lol; just not a huge fan of adaptations in general. I like X-Men best as movies (because it's the form that properly introduced me to the series), The Last of Us as a game. A Bloodborne game excites me more than an Avatar game, a James Cameron film excites me more than a hypothetical Bloodborne movie, no matter the production values.

Adaptations can be excellent, but my standard reaction to their announcements is generally lukewarm. I was under the impression that most "core" gamers felt the same way, but I'm probably wrong coz the lines between the different fiction mediums are more blurred today than ever.

That is because in general the tie-ins movies/games are pure garbage rushed out. But there have been X-men games at SNES/Genesis and perhaps even before, and well X-Men comes from comics and not movies =p . Also it is Insomniac and they done great with Spider-Man.

And yes most movies adapted from games were kinda trash as well.

What I see is that most of those from both sides only want to use the IP name for a quick buck so they don't really care about the quality, but when they do the result is satisfactory. The original Mortal Kombat was a great movie for example.



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Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

I thought this part of Forespoken looked really cool.



Causing a geyser and then freezing it.

Dialogue was a bit cheezy, but the gameplay and world look interesting enough for me to want to see more.



Hiku said:

I thought this part of Forespoken looked really cool.



Causing a geyser and then freezing it.

Dialogue was a bit cheezy, but the gameplay and world look interesting enough for me to want to see more.

The effects were great, several of them.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Hiku said:

I thought this part of Forespoken looked really cool.



Causing a geyser and then freezing it.

Dialogue was a bit cheezy, but the gameplay and world look interesting enough for me to want to see more.

The dialogue was pretty cringe indeed, maybe the rest of the game isn't as bad xD. The other thing was the stiff facial animations which looked quite off.

Other than that it looks quite fun. Traversing the terrain and some of the combat reminds me a bit of Infamous (in a good way), and the isekai element mixed with real world is pretty interesting. And this coming from the FFXV team, who was shooting for a FF more grounded in reality.. this is looking like the game they've been wanting to make.