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Who will win Super Bowl LVI?

Kansas City Chiefs 2 9.09%
 
Buffalo Bills 2 9.09%
 
Baltimore Ravens 0 0%
 
Cleveland Browns 1 4.55%
 
Tampa Bay Buccaneers 7 31.82%
 
Green Bay Packers 3 13.64%
 
Los Angeles Rams 3 13.64%
 
New Orleans Saints 0 0%
 
Other (AFC) 3 13.64%
 
Other (NFC) 1 4.55%
 
Total:22

I knew I was going to forget to make my prediction for this game.



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ANNOUNCEMENT - Super Wild Card Weekend Results

View the spreadsheet with all collected data here. Check your own statlines and let me know if there are any mistakes.

Super Wild Card Weekend was dominated by dominant performances. Four games weren't contests while the other two games had teams with comfortable leads that ended up not being that comfortable in the end. All the favorites won, so upsets were nowhere to be found.

Here are the standings for the time being. The top 4 after the divisional playoffs will advance to the semifinals where #1 will play vs. #4, and #2 vs. #3 in knockout mode. As could be expected, it's very close, so nobody is anywhere close to having secured a top 4 spot yet. Everyone all the way down to NobleTeam360 has still good chances to finish in the top 4. It's going to be a longshot for PAOerfulone and near impossible for burninmylight who forgot to make one pick and as a consequence will lose any tie-breaking procedure by default.

1Farsala6-042
2Chris Hu6-044
3RolStoppable6-051
4LudicrousSpeed6-060
5Level1Death6-064
6Angelus5-164
7castor5-168
8hatmoza5-169
9sethnintendo5-174
10Shaunodon5-179
11NobleTeam3605-179
12PAOerfulone4-272
13burninmylight4-2-

The good news is that the matchups in the divisional playoffs are a lot more competitive on paper than what we've seen on Super Wild Card Weekend, so predictions are bound to differ more while not being delusional upset picks.

Players will be ranked based on record, followed by lowest point differential total, followed by better ranking during the regular season. This is why Shaunodon is listed ahead of NobleTeam360 above.



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Bengals vs. Titans Bengals by 3 49ers vs. Packers Packers by 7
Rams vs. Buccaneers Buccaneers by 1 Bills vs. Chiefs Chiefs by 14



Bengals vs. TitansTitans by 449ers vs. Packers49ers by 7
Rams vs. BuccaneersRams by 3Bills vs. ChiefsChiefs by 7


theRepublic said:
Mandalore76 said:

One other thing that bugs me is this fixation on the Steelers offensive regression, but no one talks about the way in which the Mike Tomlin defensively-led Steelers has exited the post season in the Steelers last 3 playoff appearances:

2021 Playoffs
WildCardSunJanuary 16, 2022boxscoreL@Kansas City Chiefs2142
2020 Playoffs
WildCardSunJanuary 10, 2021boxscoreLCleveland Browns3748
2017 Playoffs
DivisionSunJanuary 14, 2018boxscoreLJacksonville Jaguars4245

But sure, let's blame the offense for not averaging over 45 points per game.

I'll finish this rant by saying there are worse ways to go out then Ben (29 of 44, 215 yards, 2 TD's, 0 Ints) did last night.  Dan Marino ended his career in a 62-7 playoff loss against Jacksonville with an 11 of 25 for 95 yards with 1 TD and 2 Int's stat line.  Jacksonville led 38-0 before Marino's first completion of the game, and he ended up getting pulled from the game after 1 series in the 2nd half.  

I wasn't expecting anything good in last night's game, but the Steelers surprised me by containing Patrick Maholmes and the KC offense for over 1.5 quarters, and actually having a 7-0 lead with 6 minutes to go before halftime.  To my pleasant surprise, I got to watch almost an entire half of football before feeling like my team was out of the game.  Unfortunately, it was all downhill from there.  Even so, as badly as they got beat, the Patriots 30 point loss to Buffalo was worse.  New England didn't score a single point until they were down 26-0.  Anyway, now the Steelers will spend the rest of the postseason in the same positiion the Cleveland Browns are:

Not sure why you are so defensive of the Steelers offense.  Especially since it is responsible for at least 2 of those losses, and arguably the 3rd as well.

Let's start with the Chiefs game yesterday.  The Steelers had 39 net yards at the end of the first half.  Net 40 if you want to take out the kneel down to end the half.  You are not going to win any game playing offense like that.  After the Chiefs scored a TD on the opening drive for the 3rd quarter, and then forced a fumble and scored another TD, the game was over.  The Chiefs played prevent defense the rest of the way.  While the game was "close", the Steelers possessions ended: Punt, Punt, Punt, Punt, Punt, Punt, Punt, End of Half, Fumble.  Net 38 yards on those 9 drives. The defense getting lit up by the Chiefs is nothing to be ashamed about.  Happens to a lot of teams.

Let's go to the Browns game.  All you need to know is Browns, zero turnovers, Steelers, 5 turnovers.  Steelers possessions started: Fumble, Interception, Punt, Interception, Punt, Interception.  28-0 start for the Browns.  Game was basically over at that point.  Win probability for the Browns never dropped below 85% after that point.  The second half garbage time points made it look closer than it actually was (TD with 1:09 left).  Offense lost this game too.

Finally the Jaguars game.  Another game they lost the turnover battle, this time 2 to zero.  Problem was the first interception set up a short field (18 yard line) for the Jaguars to easily go up 14-0 in the 1st quarter.  Then a Ben fumble was returned for a defensive TD to make it 28-7.  They gifted 14 points to the Jaguars in a game they lost by 3.  Although again, the final score looks a lot closer than the game actually was.  The Steelers scored two TDs right at the end of the game.  One with 2:01 left, and one with 0:01 left.  The defense only gave up 378 yards in this one.  And the Jaguars were actually the 5th highest scoring team in the league in 2017, and 6th in yards.  Not that bad a job considering the competition.  The turnovers on offense is what really did it.

If you look at the advanced statistics for the Steelers this year, the offense was bad.  Football Outsiders DVOA have them as the 25th best offense in the NFL.  ESPN FPI has them as the 27th best offense.

I don't deny the Steelers offensive has been bad this year.  I've never shied away from saying the offensive line is atrocious, or that the receivers have a major issue with dropping passes.  Diontae Johnson personally ended 2 Steeler first half drives with dropped passes of well thrown balls on 3rd downs.  And yeah, Ben regressed as the years wore on, as aging QB's do (see Peyton Manning and Drew Brees) especially after the year he lost a season with the elbow injury.  But, you're right to call out the turnovers in the other 2 playoff games I mentioned, although Ben was turnover free in the KC game this weekend (Najee Harris had his first fumble of the year deep in Steeler territory to set up another Chiefs score).  I was on a rant and didn't need to throw in mention of those other games, but the scores stuck out in my head at the time.  The Steelers were a consistently Top 10 offense the last 3 years that Todd Haley ran it.  Yet, he was the only one to get thrown under the bus after the Jacksonville loss.  So, I'll always be salty that they didn't win a Super Bowl when they had the offensive trifecta of Big Ben, Antonio Brown, and Le'Veon Bell playing together in their prime. 

Anyway, the Steelers were 1 out of 4 playoff teams to get trounced this weekend.  And of the 4, they were the only one to have held a lead at any point in the game.



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RolStoppable said:
Bengals vs. TitansTitans by 649ers vs. PackersPackers by 3
Rams vs. BuccaneersRams by 10Bills vs. ChiefsChiefs by 7



I am the black sheep     "of course I'm crazy, but that doesn't mean I'm wrong."-Robert Anton Wilson

I love how pff has been slamming the Steelers for weeks for not belonging in the playoffs, and making the playoffs less exciting, and teams like the Herbert's led Chargers would have made for better television in the wild card weekend... and against all fans backlash against pff for being too harsh on the Steelers, their embarrassing loss proved them right.

Steelers hold the record for longest playoff win drought in the AFC North.

I hope Baker Mayfield finds his way to the Steelers somehow this offseason.



I am the black sheep     "of course I'm crazy, but that doesn't mean I'm wrong."-Robert Anton Wilson

hatmoza said:

I love how pff has been slamming the Steelers for weeks for not belonging in the playoffs, and making the playoffs less exciting, and teams like the Herbert's led Chargers would have made for better television in the wild card weekend... and against all fans backlash against pff for being too harsh on the Steelers, their embarrassing loss proved them right.

Steelers hold the record for longest playoff win drought in the AFC North.

I hope Baker Mayfield finds his way to the Steelers somehow this offseason.

Steelers are a QB away from being a SuperBowl team. A top 10 defense and some good weapons on offense. if they had someone like Rodgers or Wilson, Winston they'd be a pretty dangerous team.



hatmoza said:

I love how pff has been slamming the Steelers for weeks for not belonging in the playoffs, and making the playoffs less exciting, and teams like the Herbert's led Chargers would have made for better television in the wild card weekend... and against all fans backlash against pff for being too harsh on the Steelers, their embarrassing loss proved them right.

Steelers hold the record for longest playoff win drought in the AFC North.

I hope Baker Mayfield finds his way to the Steelers somehow this offseason.

Any lower AFC seed would have gotten smashed by the Chiefs at home.

I think the biggest waste of space in the playoffs would have to be the Cardinals. They only got in due to a really good early season.



Farsala said:
hatmoza said:

I love how pff has been slamming the Steelers for weeks for not belonging in the playoffs, and making the playoffs less exciting, and teams like the Herbert's led Chargers would have made for better television in the wild card weekend... and against all fans backlash against pff for being too harsh on the Steelers, their embarrassing loss proved them right.

Steelers hold the record for longest playoff win drought in the AFC North.

I hope Baker Mayfield finds his way to the Steelers somehow this offseason.

Any lower AFC seed would have gotten smashed by the Chiefs at home.

I think the biggest waste of space in the playoffs would have to be the Cardinals. They only got in due to a really good early season.

I would say the Eagles were easily the worst team. Nothing about them says they're a playoff team. Still not sure how they even got in.