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DonFerrari 5 days ago

A very big domination, and no matter what people say Cyberpunk 2077 wouldn't have overshadowed it.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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Chrkeller 5 days ago
BraLoD said:
Chrkeller said:

Not to point out the obvious and rain on some parades, but winning GotY has just as much to do with competition as it does with quality of the game itself. Point being TLoU 2 released in 2020, and the competition was light. 2020 was one of the weakest years in recent memory, at least in my opinion.

2017 on the other hand was outstanding, one of the greatest. Mario Odyssey, Nier Auotamata, Breath of the Wild, Persona 5, Divinity Original Sin 2, Horizon Zero Dawn, Cuphead, Nioh,

Oh yeah, I remember that excuse on 2013 too, TLoU won record breaking awards numbers because there was no competition, when the most successful videogame ever, GTAV, released that same year...

Well I wasn't here in 2013, so I don't get what your comment has to do with me.  Additionally, if GTAV released the same year than there was in fact competition that year.  But really none of this changes the fact that competition plays a role in winning awards, and this year was weak all around.   



DonFerrari 5 days ago
elazz said:
kazuyamishima said:

Part II won Metacritic’s Reader’s Choice after being review bombed on release!!

I love happy endings!

It was an amazing game. I did believe there were some pacing / storytelling issues due to the story not being told chronologically and from multiple perspectives but that is when I comparing it with TLOUr or Uncharted 2 and 4. If I set it against most games that did release this year few dit better on that regard. As for almost everything else TLOU2 did the best ever. Sound stage and sound design in gunfights was amazing, animations were the best I've ever seen, graphics and attention for detail on a crazy level, gameplay was smooth and rewarding, AI was superb.... That it wins so many reader's choice rewards was understandable.

I only wish they'd add a 60fps patch to PS5 which would be a good incentive to replay the whole game. And where is Factions? I need an intense multiplayer game that is not an esports game or yearly CoD. 

I would only point that the pacing storytelling issue would be more of a personal preference than a true issue. They had to make the story in that arrangement to achieve the biggest emotional impact, and I liked how it was done. But yep a lot of people would prefer to be constantly changing from char.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari 5 days ago
BraLoD said:
Chrkeller said:

Not to point out the obvious and rain on some parades, but winning GotY has just as much to do with competition as it does with quality of the game itself. Point being TLoU 2 released in 2020, and the competition was light. 2020 was one of the weakest years in recent memory, at least in my opinion.

2017 on the other hand was outstanding, one of the greatest. Mario Odyssey, Nier Auotamata, Breath of the Wild, Persona 5, Divinity Original Sin 2, Horizon Zero Dawn, Cuphead, Nioh,

Oh yeah, I remember that excuse on 2013 too, TLoU won record breaking awards numbers because there was no competition, when the most successful videogame ever, GTAV, released that same year...

And considering 2020 had FF VIIR (Which for me have been the best FF title since IX perhaps), GoT (my favorite game of the gen), Yakuza 7 (it is fucking great even with new protagonist), Animal Crossing (that some people are saying should won all), Half Life Alyx (a new HL after many years) is almost like having no competition right?



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

kazuyamishima 5 days ago
DonFerrari said:
BraLoD said:

Oh yeah, I remember that excuse on 2013 too, TLoU won record breaking awards numbers because there was no competition, when the most successful videogame ever, GTAV, released that same year...

And considering 2020 had FF VIIR (Which for me have been the best FF title since IX perhaps), GoT (my favorite game of the gen), Yakuza 7 (it is fucking great even with new protagonist), Animal Crossing (that some people are saying should won all), Half Life Alyx (a new HL after many years) is almost like having no competition right?

You forgot Hades, Doom Eternal, Miles Morales, Immortal Fenyx Rising, Ori and the Will of the Wisps and Valhalla.

Yeah, it was a weak year in gaming.....



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Chrkeller 5 days ago

Comparatively it was. The fact you guys are listing Indie and Remakes... basically demonstrates as much.

And really it makes sense, both Sony and Microsoft released new systems, so clearly resources were migrated over the last couple years. And there was this thing called Covid, which likely caused delays in development.

But I don't ruin anybody's parade. If you want to think this year was just the amazing, so be it. I just posted my opinion, which was this year was weak, weakest since this generation started (particularly for Nintendo).

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DonFerrari 5 days ago
Chrkeller said:

Comparatively it was. The fact you guys are listing Indie and Remakes... basically demonstrates as much.

And really it makes sense, both Sony and Microsoft released new systems, so clearly resources were migrated over the last couple years. And there was this thing called Covid, which likely caused delays in development.

But I don't ruin anybody's parade. If you want to think this year was just the amazing, so be it. I just posted my opinion, which was this year was weak, weakest since this generation started (particularly for Nintendo).

Both qualifies for GOTY, and there is also spin-offs... the fact you don't like them or think they shouldn't be included doesn't change the fact that they count and can be strong competitors, even more when FF7R shouldn't even be called a remake since it only follows the basic storyline from the original and have same cast, everything else is completely different, could have been called FFXVI Part I and with very minor changes no one would complain it isn't a new game.

There have been many years that were weaker than this one, and if TLOU2 was released on 2019 it would have dominated nominations and victories just the same. You not particularly liking the game doesn't change that. I have found TW3 to be very boring even after trying to accept it for like 40h of play, and from memory I don't remember a big number of great games released that year, doesn't change the merits of its GOTY.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Zombie9ers 5 days ago

By Platform Exclusives:

PlayStation: 286
- The Last of Us: Part II: 228
- Ghost of Tsushima: 40
- Final Fantasy VII Remake: 15
- Demon's Souls: 1
- Dreams: 1
- Spider-Man: Miles Morales: 1

Nintendo: 22
- Animal Crossing: 22

PC: 13
- Half Life: Alyx: 9
- Microsoft's Flight Simulator: 4

Xbox: 0*

*Microsoft published both Flight Simulator (4 awards) and Ori and the Will of the Wisps (2 awards) - but both are/ will be available on other platforms (with flight simulator soon to release on Xbox consoles)



Chrkeller 5 days ago
DonFerrari said:
Chrkeller said:

Comparatively it was. The fact you guys are listing Indie and Remakes... basically demonstrates as much.

And really it makes sense, both Sony and Microsoft released new systems, so clearly resources were migrated over the last couple years. And there was this thing called Covid, which likely caused delays in development.

But I don't ruin anybody's parade. If you want to think this year was just the amazing, so be it. I just posted my opinion, which was this year was weak, weakest since this generation started (particularly for Nintendo).

Both qualifies for GOTY, and there is also spin-offs... the fact you don't like them or think they shouldn't be included doesn't change the fact that they count and can be strong competitors, even more when FF7R shouldn't even be called a remake since it only follows the basic storyline from the original and have same cast, everything else is completely different, could have been called FFXVI Part I and with very minor changes no one would complain it isn't a new game.

There have been many years that were weaker than this one, and if TLOU2 was released on 2019 it would have dominated nominations and victories just the same. You not particularly liking the game doesn't change that. I have found TW3 to be very boring even after trying to accept it for like 40h of play, and from memory I don't remember a big number of great games released that year, doesn't change the merits of its GOTY.

I don't have an issue with Last 2 winning awards.  The vast majority clearly loved it and it is fitting that it is winning a lot of awards.  And for the record I've tried W3 multiple times and didn't like it either.  My only point is Last 2 didn't have much competition this year, not many other AAA highly praised games were released.  Nintendo in particular had a weak year.

It feels as though people are reading too much into my comment.  

Edit

For the record my GotY is 13 sentinels.  Really great game.  I'm pleased.

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KratosLives 5 days ago
Chrkeller said:
DonFerrari said:

Both qualifies for GOTY, and there is also spin-offs... the fact you don't like them or think they shouldn't be included doesn't change the fact that they count and can be strong competitors, even more when FF7R shouldn't even be called a remake since it only follows the basic storyline from the original and have same cast, everything else is completely different, could have been called FFXVI Part I and with very minor changes no one would complain it isn't a new game.

There have been many years that were weaker than this one, and if TLOU2 was released on 2019 it would have dominated nominations and victories just the same. You not particularly liking the game doesn't change that. I have found TW3 to be very boring even after trying to accept it for like 40h of play, and from memory I don't remember a big number of great games released that year, doesn't change the merits of its GOTY.

I don't have an issue with Last 2 winning awards.  The vast majority clearly loved it and it is fitting that it is winning a lot of awards.  And for the record I've tried W3 multiple times and didn't like it either.  My only point is Last 2 didn't have much competition this year, not many other AAA highly praised games were released.  Nintendo in particular had a weak year.

It feels as though people are reading too much into my comment.  

Edit

For the record my GotY is 13 sentinels.  Really great game.  I'm pleased.

what about dreams, that doesn't count? regardless, tlou2 wins any year since the first game.