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Predict which range Cyberpunk's meta score will fall in?

98-100 4 4.94%
 
95-97 5 6.17%
 
92-94 28 34.57%
 
89-91 21 25.93%
 
86-88 9 11.11%
 
83-85 5 6.17%
 
80-82 3 3.70%
 
Less than 80 6 7.41%
 
Undecided 0 0%
 
Total:81

But but it has a 79% approval rating on Steam, or that's what the cyber warriors keep coming up with.

It was always going to be heavily front loaded with the amount of hype it got, but all the problems have slowed down more sales as well. Plus the more people finish it, the less positive word of mouth gets.



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AngryLittleAlchemist said:
Signalstar said:

Cyberpunk has lost 79% of its players on Steam since launch. The dumpster fire rages on!

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/cyberpunk-2077-has-lost-79-of-its-playerbase-on-steam-since-launch/1100-6485878/?utm_source=gamefaqs&utm_medium=partner&utm_content=news_module&utm_campaign=homepage

I'm glad Cyberpunk is losing steam. 

At least until the renewed interest brought about due to the release of the spiritual successor: Steampunk 1877



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Signalstar said:

Cyberpunk has lost 79% of its players on Steam since launch. The dumpster fire rages on!

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/cyberpunk-2077-has-lost-79-of-its-playerbase-on-steam-since-launch/1100-6485878/?utm_source=gamefaqs&utm_medium=partner&utm_content=news_module&utm_campaign=homepage

Witcher 3 lost 40% in the same time frame.

The difference is that Cyberpunk can be finished in ~20 hours whereas The Witcher 3 is about 50 hours.
https://howlongtobeat.com/game?id=2127
https://howlongtobeat.com/game?id=10270

In other words those numbers should be expected for a single player game where the average length of a playthrough is far shorter.
One month is plenty of time to complete Cyberpunk.



Signalstar said:

Cyberpunk has lost 79% of its players on Steam since launch. The dumpster fire rages on!

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/cyberpunk-2077-has-lost-79-of-its-playerbase-on-steam-since-launch/1100-6485878/?utm_source=gamefaqs&utm_medium=partner&utm_content=news_module&utm_campaign=homepage

I mean it is a relatively short singleplayer game. Eventually people will beat it and move on to other games. Losing 4/5ths of the playerbase in nearly 1 month seems about par for the course considering the game can be beat in like 20 hours if you do just main story, 50 if you do main story and some side content, and 90 hours if you do all side content. Sure some people will immediately start a 2nd playthrough if they really enjoy a singleplayer game, but that is fairly rare, and most who plan to do that will probably wait on the patches and free DLC's for their 2nd Cyberpunk playthrough, I know I am.

Edit: Barozi beat me to saying this by about a minute xD

Last edited by shikamaru317 - on 05 January 2021

shikamaru317 said:
Signalstar said:

Cyberpunk has lost 79% of its players on Steam since launch. The dumpster fire rages on!

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/cyberpunk-2077-has-lost-79-of-its-playerbase-on-steam-since-launch/1100-6485878/?utm_source=gamefaqs&utm_medium=partner&utm_content=news_module&utm_campaign=homepage

I mean it is a relatively short singleplayer game. Eventually people will beat it and move on to other games. Losing 4/5ths of the playerbase in nearly 1 month seems about par for the course considering the game can be beat in like 20 hours if you do just main story, 50 if you do main story and some side content, and 90 hours if you do all side content. Sure some people will immediately start a 2nd playthrough if they really enjoy a singleplayer game, but that is fairly rare, and most who plan to do that will probably wait on the patches and free DLC's for their 2nd Cyberpunk playthrough, I know I am.

Edit: Barozi beat me to saying this by about a minute xD

Also there is probably a lot of people waiting for further updates to go back to the game and play it again or complete all achievements or complete all side quests.



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And this was supposed to be the game that was going to beat TLOU Part II?



finalrpgfantasy said:

And this was supposed to be the game that was going to beat TLOU Part II?

User reviews wise, the PC version of Cyberpunk is beating TLOU 2 on Metacritic xD 5.7 for TLOU 2 vs 7.2 for Cyberpunk PC. Console user reviews for Cyberpunk are lower than TLOU 2 though, due to what a mess the game is on base PS4/XB1. I think that if Cyberpunk had gotten another year in the oven and a PS5/Xbox Series release instead of PS4/XB1, it might have matched or exceeded TLOU 2's 93 meta while getting higher user reviews on all platforms, but alas, they rushed it out and released it on base last gen hardware that just couldn't run it well. 



shikamaru317 said:
finalrpgfantasy said:

And this was supposed to be the game that was going to beat TLOU Part II?

User reviews wise, the PC version of Cyberpunk is beating TLOU 2 on Metacritic xD 5.7 for TLOU 2 vs 7.2 for Cyberpunk PC. Consoler user reviews for Cyberpunk are lower though, due to what a mess the game is on base PS4/XB1. 

I mean if we're being honest, one of those got bombarded by an online campaign against it for reasons that are - at times - dubious at best, and one is the game barely being playable. Not saying that anyone who inherently dislikes one or the other or prefers one to the other is a troll, we all have our own opinions, but I think most people can agree (probably not you) that one user score aggregate is at least more understandable than the other. 



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AngryLittleAlchemist said:
shikamaru317 said:

User reviews wise, the PC version of Cyberpunk is beating TLOU 2 on Metacritic xD 5.7 for TLOU 2 vs 7.2 for Cyberpunk PC. Consoler user reviews for Cyberpunk are lower though, due to what a mess the game is on base PS4/XB1. 

I mean if we're being honest, one of those got bombarded by an online campaign against it for reasons that are - at times - dubious at best, and one is the game barely being playable. Not saying that anyone who inherently dislikes one or the other or prefers one to the other is a troll, we all have our own opinions, but I think most people can agree (probably not you) that one user score aggregate is at least more understandable than the other. 

I'd say the PC version of Cyberpunk is more than playable. Yes, the console versions are a mess and their user scores are both lower than TLOU 2, but the PC version is in pretty decent shape, a bit buggy, but nowhere near the level of issues on consoles, especially base consoles. Steam is at 79% on user reviews. 

As for The Last of Us 2 user reviews, yes there was a user score downvoting campaign against it from people who were mad about things they saw in the leaks as well as from people who hate Druckman, but there are also plenty of legit TLOU 1 fans who played it and didn't like it from what I saw. How many? It's hard to say, the legit criticisms kind of got lost in the sea of the targeted campaign.

Cyberpunk also had a bit of an unfair campaign against it if we're being honest, I can guarantee you that a good number of those negative user reviews on metacritic are from people who didn't even buy it and were never interested in it to start with probably. There was a campaign against Cyberpunk by certain SJW types before it ever released due to what they saw as an anti-trans rights positions by CD Projekt, as well as over the crunch allegations. Then you have the console fanboy types who will have slammed it with bad user reviews on all platforms, even on PC, because they were unhappy about the console version performance.

In the end, I would say that neither game got a totally fair shake as far as user reviews went. It's always like this with any game that is controversial on release, be it No Man's Sky, TLOU 2, Cyberpunk, or Fallout 76, they get slammed with overreaction user reviews and user reviews from people who didn't even play the game, you can't really get a fair picture of how people actually feel about the game.



shikamaru317 said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:

I mean if we're being honest, one of those got bombarded by an online campaign against it for reasons that are - at times - dubious at best, and one is the game barely being playable. Not saying that anyone who inherently dislikes one or the other or prefers one to the other is a troll, we all have our own opinions, but I think most people can agree (probably not you) that one user score aggregate is at least more understandable than the other. 

I'd say the PC version of Cyberpunk is more than playable. Yes, the console versions are a mess and their user scores are both lower than TLOU 2, but the PC version is in pretty decent shape, a bit buggy, but nowhere near the level of issues on consoles, especially base consoles. Steam is at 79% on user reviews. 

As for The Last of Us 2 user reviews, yes there was a user score downvoting campaign against it from people who were mad about things they saw in the leaks as well as from people who hate Druckman, but there are also plenty of legit TLOU 1 fans who played it and didn't like it from what I saw. How many? It's hard to say, the legit criticisms kind of got lost in the sea of the targeted campaign.

Cyberpunk also had a bit of an unfair campaign against it if we're being honest, I can guarantee you that a good number of those negative user reviews on metacritic are from people who didn't even buy it and were never interested in it to start with probably. There was a campaign against Cyberpunk by certain SJW types before it ever released due to what they saw as an anti-trans rights positions by CD Projekt, as well as over the crunch allegations. Then you have the console fanboy types who will have slammed it with bad user reviews on all platforms, even on PC, because they were unhappy about the console version performance.

In the end, I would say that neither game got a totally fair shake as far as user reviews went. It's always like this with any game that is controversial on release, be it No Man's Sky, TLOU 2, Cyberpunk, or Fallout 76, they get slammed with overreaction user reviews and user reviews from people who didn't even play the game, you can't really get a fair picture of how people actually feel about the game.

Yea but the point is that the user scores Cyberpunk got are probably much more accurate to how people actually feel about the game, or least people who played it, rather than The Last of Us Part II. Which is why I don't really have much of a problem with the PC version having a higher user score on Metacritic (though the fact that it's even that low probably reflects it's not as playable as a lot of people make it out to be - just that it's much more playable than the console equivalents). 

Cyberpunk's criticisms from "SJW types" were laughed at by most people and happened long before the game's release (IIRC at least), it really has nothing to do with the metascore. There was one or two reviews who mentioned Trans-issues in relation to the game, but that was ... during actual reviews, of you know, the game, that they played. That's more than fair even if you disagree with those criticisms, and even then those don't reflect the opinions of the actual users (nobody even acknowledges those potential problems). The Last of Us Part II was lambasted because of leaks, and yea those leaks reveal what was actually in the game, but they also miss the point of entertainment and art as a whole - that the context of experiencing art is what makes it what it is, not the context of it vaguely being described to you. And I'm saying this as someone who thinks all of Naughty Dog's games (at least the ones I've played which is Uncharted 1-4 and TLOU) are not very well written or exceptional in pretty much any regard, the shake that The Last of Us Part II got was unequivocally less fair than what Cyberpunk got. You are right that any game with any extent of controversy is going to have some extent of unfairness to it, but that's not really the point so much as the extent of the unfairness. 



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