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Were you expecting a big advantage for the XSX?

Yes 20 32.79%
 
No 41 67.21%
 
Total:61
Shiken said:
JRPGfan said:

Thats just it....

Your quoteing a NXgamer video... where it you notice 1 single tiny bit (like a secound) of action.

The same guy, NXgamer, used a program to analyse frames shown on both, playing through a sequence of say 1hour or something.
He analysed the differnce in terms of FPS, and came to 0.02% differnce statistically.

you can cherry pick, 1 single moment you see.
But its odd your source, is the same, as the guy claiming there is no differnce, statistically.

This is why people use graphs and analyse data.
1 single tiny moment, in a game doesnt represent how the entire game will run.

The best idea, is to look how it plays over a long periode.
When you do that, you can compaire how often X drops frames vs Y ect.
Which is what he does.

He says theres only a 0.02% differnce in performance between the XSX and PS5.

And my point is that just because that bottom resolution is hit in a momentary instance, that does not mean the resolution is automatically lower overall.  In fact they both average around 1440p, which would suggest that there are points where the XSX has a higher max resolution, or has enough instances where the resolution is higher to even it out.  It is simple math really.

And that is where the problem with your claim lies.  You want to split hairs for a momentary instance where the resolution drops to 1180p, but don't want to split hairs on the fact that certain special attacks can make the PS5 frame drop to 56 fps where the XSX maintains 60 fps.  If you want to split hairs, you have to do it both ways, and that will end in a tie.

Digital Foundry and NXgamer both say it is.
As do others.   Avg resolution is lesser on the XSX.



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eva01beserk said:
DonFerrari said:

Why should they patch ps5 to another version worse than It was before this patch? Better unpatch whatever they made that broke it.

Wasent the guy from DF saying something about returning to a previous version? I thought you could do so. I never tried but he mentioned that and I thought they reversed it or something. 

I saw he saying to not update. Didn't see mention of uninstalling the patch. But yes I'm in favor of whatever patch AC team put for PS5 removes the parts that impacted PS5 negatively as there is no reason to make a patch that make things worse.

JRPGfan said:
Shiken said:

And my point is that just because that bottom resolution is hit in a momentary instance, that does not mean the resolution is automatically lower overall.  In fact they both average around 1440p, which would suggest that there are points where the XSX has a higher max resolution, or has enough instances where the resolution is higher to even it out.  It is simple math really.

And that is where the problem with your claim lies.  You want to split hairs for a momentary instance where the resolution drops to 1180p, but don't want to split hairs on the fact that certain special attacks can make the PS5 frame drop to 56 fps where the XSX maintains 60 fps.  If you want to split hairs, you have to do it both ways, and that will end in a tie.

Digital Foundry and NXgamer both say it is.
As do others.   Avg resolution is lesser on the XSX.

Doesn't VGTech or NXGamer also measure the time at each resolution? Because Shiken is trying to ignore the difference in framerate because he saw one glimpse of a 56fps and saying that the lower resolution is also for a short period.

Well there is no mistake, if the solution for the drops on Xbox (that were bigger than on PS5) was to lower the resolution, then the performance gap is basically the same (traded res for frames) so if PS5 had advantage before it still mantains it now.



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All I know is that my post on that article was downboted to hell just for pointimg out this exact outcome. Its basicly in their description that nothing was done to improve overall performance just droped the resolution. But people thought that now the performance gap of the 2 consoles was gone. People expected to much for a patch that was out in under a week.



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eva01beserk said:

All I know is that my post on that article was downboted to hell just for pointimg out this exact outcome. Its basicly in their description that nothing was done to improve overall performance just droped the resolution. But people thought that now the performance gap of the 2 consoles was gone. People expected to much for a patch that was out in under a week.

Please, you need to understand the XBox fans. The X1 was destroyed by the PS4, the launch of their new "most powerful console of all time" is quite bad (non existent in Europe and Japan, beaten by the PS5 in the US) and then you add a cross-gen/platform game running better on the PS5. Their world is ending, they spent a few hundreds dollars on a virtually dead console, they have to find an excuse.

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Alcyon said:
eva01beserk said:

All I know is that my post on that article was downboted to hell just for pointimg out this exact outcome. Its basicly in their description that nothing was done to improve overall performance just droped the resolution. But people thought that now the performance gap of the 2 consoles was gone. People expected to much for a patch that was out in under a week.

Please, you need to understand the XBox fans. The X1 was destroyed by the PS4, the launch of their new "most powerful console of all time" is quite bad (non existent in Europe and Japan, beaten by the PS5 in the US) and then you add a cross-gen/platform game running better on the PS5. Their world is ending, they spent a few hundreds dollars on a virtually dead console, they have to find an excuse.

I get that. I just never asumed reading skill was a battleground that a English as a second lenguage person came ahead in. This is just getting ridicolous. 



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