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d21lewis said:
Darashiva said:

No guesses for these yet, so here's a second hint for both.

#40

-The immortal main character has no memory of his past life

-The only reason I ever wanted to own a 360

#38

-The 12th game in the series, the 7th game in the sub-series within the series, and the 2nd game in its own story arc within the sub-series

-Overall, there are 4 games part of this particular story arc, the last of which was released in the west just last month

I mentioned your #40 in my last post! 

Indeed you did. So that's all of them guessed so far.



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Okay, guess people didn't care about the trial and error process anymore. Hint time.

#41 - This sequel introduced a co-op mode that was the very definition of giving a controller to your younger sibling just so they can feel like they're doing something.
Hint 2 - It's a platformer and it's not Super Mario Galaxy 2, or LittleBigPlanet 2, or DKC2.
Hint 3 - The character used by player 2 would become the first in a very long line of sidekicks in this convoluted franchise.



mZuzek said:

Okay, guess people didn't care about the trial and error process anymore. Hint time.

#41 - This sequel introduced a co-op mode that was the very definition of giving a controller to your younger sibling just so they can feel like they're doing something.
Hint 2 - It's a platformer and it's not Super Mario Galaxy 2, or LittleBigPlanet 2, or DKC2.
Hint 3 - The character used by player 2 would become the first in a very long line of sidekicks in this convoluted franchise.

Sonic the Hedgehog 2?

UnderwaterFunktown said:
Runa216 said:

41 - One of the side quests has you learning a dude is in love with his horse and probably much more.

Red Dead Redemption?

Correct! 



Jpcc86 said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:

Here's some hints from a couple more of my games.

40.  Part of the gameplay of this game involves obtaining 3 keys to open up 3 different gates.  Kinda like the plot to Ready Player One.

39.  This gameplay on this SNES entry is closer the to the original arcade version of the series than it is to the NES entry.

39 - Super Punch Out??

Correct!

Going to give another hint to 40.

40.  a) Part of the gameplay of this game involves obtaining 3 keys to open up 3 different gates.  Kinda like the plot to Ready Player One.
b) This is the first game to ever give credit to the game's maker(s).  Although in this case the credits were hidden.



Darashiva said:

#47

Mega Man 4

Change YOY: -4

Mega Man 4 served as my introduction to the series, and to this day it remains my second favourite NES game of all time. The gameplay was further polished from the previous games, with the addition of the Mega Buster bringing a great new element to the game, the music is among the best on the entire system, and the robot masters are still highly varied and a lot of fun to fight.

After this game the quality of the 8-bit Mega Man games took an unfortunate dive, but from Mega Man 2 until Mega Man 4 the series was on par of better than any other 2D platforming game around at the time, and they still hold up today wonderfully, with this one being the best of the bunch, in my opinion of course.

#46

Rogue Galaxy

Change YOY: +1

I really need to get around to replaying Rogue Galaxy at some point in the near future. If only my backlog wasn't so stupidly long already. Anyway, Rogue Galaxy is the second Level-5 developed game on my list after Dragon Quest VIII appeared here a little earlier. It was a game I hadn't really heard anything about, one say I just happened to see it on one of online stores I used to order games from, and thought it looked interesting. So I gave it a try, and absolutely loved the game from the moment it started.

From the music to the gameplay and from the characters to the story, I enjoyed every part of Rogue Galaxy. In addition, the setting is wonderful, with a huge variety of different types of locations to explore over the course of this JRPG space opera.

Aww Jeez. I thought Megaman 3 was the last of the great NES megaman games. Guess I'll have to pickup Megaman 4 then. Added to my wishlist.

Also, I love PS2 era Level-5. Rogue Galaxy will get played eventually. My backlog is too big. :P

d21lewis said:
Haven't edited my post yet (I'll do it when we reach day 40) but my game #44 isCall of Duty 4: Modern WarfareI'd played the series a few times before (still have my copy of CoD2 that came with my Xbox 360) and a few games after. I've since lost interest in the series for the most part but CoD 4 was something special. It was THE online game in my home for a long time. The campaign was masterfully done, as well. That was a great time to be a gamer. I'd gladly play Modern Warfare over pretty much any fps released before or since.

Yeah, original CoD4 was so revolutionary for it's time. These days, that sort of gameplay is a dime a dozen, but throwing RPG elements into a multiplayer game was such a step up at the time.

S.Peelman said:
mZuzek said:


Guessed by @Mnementh

On a random evening in 2016, I was desperate to play something but had no controller on me, so I asked my friends to recommend a game that's good on keyboard/mouse. One guy recommended this. Looking back, honestly, I'm not sure about his recommendation, the game looks a lot better with a controller, but hey, I did get to play an awesome game! Hyper Light Drifter's got really great gameplay, but what hooked me was the extremely heavy atmosphere, with its cryptic story, dark soundtrack, and terminal disease infected protagonist. Several years on, I still have no idea what was going on with the story here, neither do I remember much (having never gone back to it is the main reason for the steep fall here). But what I do remember, is that it was a really great game.

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I kind of regret not making these nice cards now. It does look cool. Maybe I'll still do something for the top 10/20.

mZuzek said:

Next one up!

#43 - This game features a lot of headshots, but they're not the usual kind of headshot.

Pokemon Snap?

@mZuzek What program are you using to make these cards? Anything that's more affordable than photoshop's $10 monthly fee?

The_Liquid_Laser said:

50. Astro Boy: Omega Factor (GBA)
guessed by supermario28

I started getting into retro gaming a few years ago and the first “new to me” game that really impressed me was Astroy Boy on the GBA.  This game was developed by Treasure and they just did everything right.  Great controls, beautiful graphics, catchy music and just a lot of pure fun in every stage.  This game needs to be played on a TV via Gameboy Player to get the full effect, and it looks even better on a CRT.  

I had no idea this existed. Adding it to my GBA Wishlist. Treasure games are a um... Treasure? Yes. :P

Mnementh said:
#43Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of Dana
guessed byOTBWY
platformSwitch
release year2016
developer/publisherNihon Falcom/NIS America
genreaction RPG
linksWikipedia
past years2019: #45, 2018: #47

Ys is a longrunning RPG-series with the hero Adol Christin as the main character. In this entry his ship wrecks on a mysterious island. As he explores the island he find other passengers of the ship, helps building a shelter, fend off monster attacks and so on. It is a very satisfying mix of actions.

The story is set in the universe of the Ys series, but brings the characters to an island which no one ever left. It is filled with monsters of all sorts, including Primordials which were believed to be extinct. Exploring the island and reaching the regions you saw before from afar is very satisfying.

The fighting system is diverse and each character brings on their own set of moves, which helps to keep fighting fresh. The game also offers decent challenges.

The real fun is to explore more and more of the island and on the way uncover more of a twisted plot. At some point we have even to solve a crime and play detective.

Another element are the recurring monster attacks which can be played for points as waves of monsters attack your base.

I played it on Switch, which probably doesn't offer the best graphical fidelity of all versions, but still it was a very nice looking game. If you like action JRPGs, you should give this game a try. In the meantime the Switch got Ys Origin and Ys IX is announced for the platform. So more Ys is coming.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zojyM1cNIgM

Another game sitting in my backlog. The really good news for Switch owners is that since PS5 isn't doing too hot in Japan, and since PS4 didn't do all that well, a lot of Japanese RPG devs are going to prioritize Switch, and then release on PC a few months later. PS5 might not actually get a lot of these niche JRPGs anymore, since the PS4 sold poorly in Japan, and PS5 is looking to do even worse.

mZuzek said:


Guessed by @UnderwaterFunktown

So, the next newcomer in this year's list is the very first entry in the Persona series, Persona 3. I started playing through this game in December of last year, and couldn't get into it. Thought the beginning was too slow, the pacing was terrible, and overall just couldn't find anything to keep me going, but I kept forcing myself to play it until I eventually... gave up. But then, about a month after giving up, I decided to give it another chance, and then did manage to get into it - the story got significantly more interesting when that character shows up, and from then on it only gets better and better, building up to an incredible final act.

The thing is, I still don't think this is a great game. From a gameplay perspective, it can be quite boring, and it hasn't aged well. Some battle mechanics are particularly questionable, but everything outside of battle is only worse. The story, while very well written, has really poor pacing and makes the whole first third of the game feel like a slog - and even in later portions of the game, the massive chunks of nothing that take place in between major plot points is really jarring. There are many things that hold this game back from greatness, but still... Looking back at it now, I think this was a memorable and valuable experience. It didn't need to be the best game ever. It was iconic and unique, and sometimes that's all it takes.

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I had the same problem with Persona 5. The story at times just holds your hand, and not much happens for an hour or so. But then once the major plot points kick in it gets really good.



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Cerebralbore101 said:

@mZuzek What program are you using to make these cards? Anything that's more affordable than photoshop's $10 monthly fee?

mZuzek said:

The story, while very well written, has really poor pacing and makes the whole first third of the game feel like a slog - and even in later portions of the game, the massive chunks of nothing that take place in between major plot points is really jarring.

I had the same problem with Persona 5. The story at times just holds your hand, and not much happens for an hour or so. But then once the major plot points kick in it gets really good.

I suppose it is a minor issue in Persona 5, sometimes you'll just be forced into plenty of filler content. Rarely ever bothered me, though. Persona 3 isn't like that at all - the way it works in that game is that you basically have no story at all between the major plot points, and the major plot points tend to only last a day or two, so you're left with very ample "deadlines" where you can just do whatever you want. Guess that's less handholdy in that sense, but it makes the game feel a little... empty.

I created these and the thread banners in Illustrator/Photoshop. Though I still believe I have what it takes to become a musician, uhh, that sort of thing is what I work with and have been working with for the past few years. So, yeah.



#49 - Guardian Heroes - Xbox 360

An incredible beat em up from Treasure, besides its great, stylish sprite work, its memorable soundtrack, GH offers a cool, replayable adventure thanks to its branching paths and stories on top of its multiple characters and light level up system, story is wacky as a trademark of the studio, gameplay is satisfying and challenging enough, just a ton of fun.

#48 - Ys Origin - PC/NS

Best Ys game, as a prequel it manages to get a lot right in setting up the events of I & II, with a good enough story that doesn't drag too much in its exposition, at this point I have only done Yunica's route from the 3 playable characters, really like her, is like an Adol but with more personal drive and a personality. One of my favorite things about playing Ys games are the bosses, and Origin delivers well on creating very fun ones, they are the driving force of challenge in the series, between the zen grinding sessions in the levels, another of my favorite things from it is the music, I love the tower structure, every time I finish a boss I know I'll get to hear a new music track for the next main floor, this soundtrack in particular being my favorite of the series, and another thing I appreciate the most from the series up to this point, the simplicity and short lenght, is a nice, comfort ARPG.



Cerebralbore101 said:
Darashiva said:

#47

Mega Man 4

Change YOY: -4

Mega Man 4 served as my introduction to the series, and to this day it remains my second favourite NES game of all time. The gameplay was further polished from the previous games, with the addition of the Mega Buster bringing a great new element to the game, the music is among the best on the entire system, and the robot masters are still highly varied and a lot of fun to fight.

After this game the quality of the 8-bit Mega Man games took an unfortunate dive, but from Mega Man 2 until Mega Man 4 the series was on par of better than any other 2D platforming game around at the time, and they still hold up today wonderfully, with this one being the best of the bunch, in my opinion of course.

#46

Rogue Galaxy

Change YOY: +1

I really need to get around to replaying Rogue Galaxy at some point in the near future. If only my backlog wasn't so stupidly long already. Anyway, Rogue Galaxy is the second Level-5 developed game on my list after Dragon Quest VIII appeared here a little earlier. It was a game I hadn't really heard anything about, one say I just happened to see it on one of online stores I used to order games from, and thought it looked interesting. So I gave it a try, and absolutely loved the game from the moment it started.

From the music to the gameplay and from the characters to the story, I enjoyed every part of Rogue Galaxy. In addition, the setting is wonderful, with a huge variety of different types of locations to explore over the course of this JRPG space opera.

Aww Jeez. I thought Megaman 3 was the last of the great NES megaman games. Guess I'll have to pickup Megaman 4 then. Added to my wishlist.

Also, I love PS2 era Level-5. Rogue Galaxy will get played eventually. My backlog is too big. :P

Yeah, I've heard some people say that, but I always thought 4 was very much on par with 2 and 3, though I'm sure people's opinions differ greatly on that topic. Also, I actually just started replaying Rogue Galaxy a few days ago, and so far I'm really enjoying it. The PS4 digital release is a nice way to go back to it.



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#48: One of the latest games for the Neo-Geo, but also one of the best - and certainly the best of it's series

Hint: In this remake of an early title of this series, you first fight through an army of soldiers, but end up fighting off an alien invasion halfway through the game.

#46: Summon Volcanoes or dig craters in this very innovative shooter/genre mix

Hint #1: Has an Arabian Nights setting.

Hint #2: You need to built a castle to collect the Mana of the world Magic Carpet 2, found out by Mnementh

#41: Greetings, Warlord! Let the war begin! 

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The_Liquid_Laser said:
Jpcc86 said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:

Here's some hints from a couple more of my games.

40.  Part of the gameplay of this game involves obtaining 3 keys to open up 3 different gates.  Kinda like the plot to Ready Player One.

39.  This gameplay on this SNES entry is closer the to the original arcade version of the series than it is to the NES entry.

39 - Super Punch Out??

Correct!

Going to give another hint to 40.

40.  a) Part of the gameplay of this game involves obtaining 3 keys to open up 3 different gates.  Kinda like the plot to Ready Player One.
b) This is the first game to ever give credit to the game's maker(s).  Although in this case the credits were hidden.

Adventure

Also, the idea for the 3 keys and 3 gates (shortened to just the 3 keys in the movie) is certainly coming from this game. It even shows up in the last challenge in the movie.