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dpsx74 said:
No, I don't think you get it. Nothing was justified. I called out Weinermobile on abuse (which he'll deny), withdrew his ability to mod me, and he thought it wouldn't $tick. Oh no, $ is such an evil, unwanted symbol! Where is that part in the rules? Too bad. And I guess you'll have to be denied too if this is the kind of scam you guys pull around here. I've dealt with mod abuse on plenty of forums. The entire team will hide it to protect their little clan. Why should you be the exception? So thanks for your concern but you can leave now.

To Weinerhead, you can try but it won't help. You threw a pissyfit over a $, started removing posts that weren't against any rules. I called your shit, and from that point your mod opinions had no relevance to my account. If you don't like it then I suggest you try modding a different forum. I'll stop when you apologize. Otherwise go swallow a tack.

"I've dealt with mod abuse on plenty of forums."

Well, if this seems to be happening to you wherever you go, at a certain point you have to ask yourself, "am I the asshole"?

Last time I'll bother responding. Just know that it takes you way more effort to do this than it takes us to ban you. If that's how you choose to spend your time... then that's on you, but I'd suggest seeking help.



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weinerhead isn't even a good insult, wienerhead is the obvious choice



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Ka-pi96 said:

Fair enough. I think it's worth pointing out however that if we still had a mod thread then I likely would have asked in there rather than creating a new thread about it. Maybe then I also would have asked about it when John was originally banned (I believe the mod thread was closed around the same time). The post deletion was the only part of that ban I took issue with, so I didn't see it as worth following up back then, especially assuming I'd have had to create a whole thread about it then too.

It was just seeing more missing posts again recently that made it relevant to me again. I know you asked whose posts specifically, but I didn't know whose, I just noticed that weren't as many as there should have been anymore. That may have even been a spam bot, but mistake or not regular users have had posts deleted recently so I don't think it was unfair to think that the new deletions may have been a regular user too.

Just to be clear, even if this hadn't been a new thread but a post in an older thread, it would have been the same, minus a thread title.
One of the (several) reasons the Mod Thread was closed was because of posts like this OP and Kirby's comment. I was always trying to find ideas to keep that thread open btw, so when I say these things, it's so that you'll know how to avoid getting these threads locked immediately. And this one was actually, for a moment.

I understand your point about how you feel you would have been more on top of the situation with John if the Mod Thread was still around. But it is what it is now, and if you don't feel like PM'ing any one of us, then consider if you have enough information to make a thread like this without suggesting malicious intent when you may be wrong, and creating a situation where we have to scramble because we don't have enough information (we didn't know who you were referring to, and we couldn't get in touch with JWein for a few hours.)

Also I know you don't remember who you were referring to, but if you had for example reached out to me first, I would have asked you if you meant Nightly Poe, and ruled that out right away. Then you would have known that he requested it (which would have probably made you reconsider if we do this outside of requests), and I would have asked the other mods who else got their posts wiped, because as of yesterday I only knew of that happening to Poe.



Ryuu96 said:
Regarding DPSX, I'm working to restore his post history, even though his account history is so tiny, it was still a mistake.

John unfortunately can't be restored, I'm told the back up is only a couple weeks, I'm going to see if we can restore some of his post history from beta site at least, it won't be the entire thing but it will be up until mid-2020 at least.

I do think moderation went one step too far regarding John.

Imo he was punished for being his own non harmfull overly expressive self, a warning should have been enough for what he did.



Immersiveunreality said:
Ryuu96 said:
Regarding DPSX, I'm working to restore his post history, even though his account history is so tiny, it was still a mistake.

John unfortunately can't be restored, I'm told the back up is only a couple weeks, I'm going to see if we can restore some of his post history from beta site at least, it won't be the entire thing but it will be up until mid-2020 at least.

I do think moderation went one step too far regarding John.

Imo he was punished for being his own non harmfull overly expressive self, a warning should have been enough for what he did.

I don't remember the situation in question. But generally when it comes to bans, they're a result of a progressive system. If you let's say commit the exact same offense several times in a row, eventually you'll get a ban instead of a warning. And then a longer ban.
And if you haven't been in trouble for a long time, then we may be more lenient. Etc.

There's more to it, and there are exceptions, but basically we also look at a users mod history when deciding what to do.



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Many of the comments here amount to mods saying "if the mods are screwing up and you call us out publicly, we'll lock the thread. People that call us out in ways we don't like are the real problem."  I'd suggest that if one can't take criticism, and even an occasional questioning of their motives (whether unfounded or not) one shouldn't be a mod.

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Ryuu96 said:

Who are we talking about exactly?

The Spam Delete option is rarely used and is typically only ever used on Spambots.

I've Spam deleted roughly 20 Spambots over the course of the week who didn't post in the forums but were spamming users walls with "I want to fuck your pussy" but if he spammed that in threads too I would have still used it.

NightlyPoe requested his Spam Delete from Machina.

Thanks for that I can now let my cat peruse users walls with me again she will be happy.



VAMatt said:
Many of the posts here amount to mods saying "if the mods are screwing up and you call us out publicly, we'll lock the thread. People that call us out in ways we don't like are the real problem.". I'd suggest that if one can't take criticism, and even an occasional questioning of their motives (whether unfounded or not) one shouldn't be a mod.

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VAMatt said:

Many of the comments here amount to mods saying "if the mods are screwing up and you call us out publicly, we'll lock the thread. People that call us out in ways we don't like are the real problem."  I'd suggest that if one can't take criticism, and even an occasional questioning of their motives (whether unfounded or not) one shouldn't be a mod.

The "calling out" is the issue. Legitimate concerns don't always have to become threads (ask Hiku said, this is one of the reasons all 'The Moderator Threads' have been locked. It could have been addressed directly in a PM to which it would have seen the same response (particularly as it was an administrative issue and not one where a mod was doing something deliberate).

So, I get what you're saying, but I agree with the mods who have opposed the way of doing it specific to this case.



                                                                                                                                                           

VAMatt said:

Many of the comments here amount to mods saying "if the mods are screwing up and you call us out publicly, we'll lock the thread. People that call us out in ways we don't like are the real problem."  I'd suggest that if one can't take criticism, and even an occasional questioning of their motives (whether unfounded or not) one shouldn't be a mod.

Lies are not criticism.

This thread could have done without the sentences that were made up by OP and Kirby, so that staff can focus on the rest instead of having to debunk conspiracy theories.

None of what I had issues with had anything to do with 'mods screwing up'. It had to do with things that never happened.