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EricHiggin said:
JWeinCom said:

Again, I'm not holding Trump responsible every time someone catches the virus or anytime someone defies the safety advice.

I'm holding him accountable for his actions which either directly spread the virus, or encouraged the public to be less safe. From what I can see, it's clearly the case his actions were negligent at best, and more likely should be considered to be intentionally endangering the public. I think I've made it abundantly clear what they are, and I think some are completely indefensible.

I would absolutely love for a task force to be set up, where experts will analyze the situation, and come up with a more scientific analysis of exactly how much Trump's actions caused the virus to spread (or for that matter if they actually saved lives which I can't fathom is true). 

I'm not saying he's blameless.

Sure, but everyone with considerable political power and influence need to be part of the inquiry so as to know who exactly caused what. Earlier on especially, though after the danger of spread was understood, there were events that were allowed and weren't shut down, some attended by high ranking politicians. On the flip side, some politicians pushed for masks earlier on while others didn't. We need to know who was responsible for what at the end of the day, and what could have perhaps been better or worse decisions made by them instead. The public should be able to take that individual info and decide who's more influential and how much that matters to them.

I don't object to any of that. If there's reason to suspect anyone in a position of power did anything less than follow their best judgment, with the goal of protecting lives, they should be held accountable. As the President, Trump should be the first to be scrutinized.



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JWeinCom said:
EricHiggin said:

I'm not saying he's blameless.

Sure, but everyone with considerable political power and influence need to be part of the inquiry so as to know who exactly caused what. Earlier on especially, though after the danger of spread was understood, there were events that were allowed and weren't shut down, some attended by high ranking politicians. On the flip side, some politicians pushed for masks earlier on while others didn't. We need to know who was responsible for what at the end of the day, and what could have perhaps been better or worse decisions made by them instead. The public should be able to take that individual info and decide who's more influential and how much that matters to them.

I don't object to any of that. If there's reason to suspect anyone in a position of power did anything less than follow their best judgment, with the goal of protecting lives, they should be held accountable. As the President, Trump should be the first to be scrutinized.

Well if this took place and people followed through after the findings, the swamp would actually get drained then, and everybody would likely end up reasonably pleased.



EricHiggin said:
JWeinCom said:

I don't object to any of that. If there's reason to suspect anyone in a position of power did anything less than follow their best judgment, with the goal of protecting lives, they should be held accountable. As the President, Trump should be the first to be scrutinized.

Well if this took place and people followed through after the findings, the swamp would actually get drained then, and everybody would likely end up reasonably pleased.

If it happened and was done fairly.



Whataboutism doesn't work when one party is the President and is rightfully held at a much higher standard than literally anyone else. This isn't equal exchange. It's one party with supreme power willfully misusing it. Misusing it to a point where lives are squandered that could have easily been saved. Where I come from failure to provide assistance is a crime, which is what the President has been doing and is still doing while inflicted with the same illness. That alone makes him a criminal.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duty_to_rescue#Case_law

Fun read. Whereas victim blaming is big in the US, people in Germany get fined for not helping.



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Coronaparanoid around virus is a fake.
Previous polish health minister last monday (a week ago) probably has virus, but in the next day it doesn't and he was out shopping and he said that was fine...
Strange, isn't it?



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JWeinCom said:
Machiavellian said:

So, who did not see this coming.  Whether he actually came down with it or posing, the message here is what I expected.  

Biden has more experience in not getting the coronavirus, so I think he's more qualified, since our goal is to not get infected.

My point in this video is the message they and the president will try to send.  That the virus is nothing to worry about and that he and that you can throw caution to the wind because its no big deal.  Its the ploy I stated before I seem them using and true to form and predictable here we are.



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https://www.theverge.com/2020/10/6/21504206/facebook-removed-trump-post-covid-19-coronavirus-flu-lethal-misinformation



Apparently freedom of speech isn't a thing in the USA anymore when corporations censor the president.



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RolStoppable said:
Apparently freedom of speech isn't a thing in the USA anymore when corporations censor the president.

You do know that freedom of speech only applies to the government trying to restrict your speech not a company product.  Its not like you have freedom of speech to say whatever you want when you go to work or say things in public and get fired.  People need to understand what freedom of speech means and what it applies to.



Machiavellian said:
JWeinCom said:

Biden has more experience in not getting the coronavirus, so I think he's more qualified, since our goal is to not get infected.

My point in this video is the message they and the president will try to send.  That the virus is nothing to worry about and that he and that you can throw caution to the wind because its no big deal.  Its the ploy I stated before I seem them using and true to form and predictable here we are.

It's like he's trying to kill as many people as he possibly can. Now do you all understand why I made such extreme posts here about how to deal with Trump in the last few years? He's a heartless idiot who doesn't care how many people he kills, so long as he gets to be rich and powerful. He's turned America into an kleptocracy, and he's enjoying all the lives he's taken or ruined.