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Which 9th gen system will sell the most this Holiday?

Switch 95 67.38%
 
PS5 40 28.37%
 
Series X/S 6 4.26%
 
Total:141
Bandorr said:
Wyrdness said:

What are you on about? What multiplatform games a platform plays doesn't determine if a platform is in a gen or not.

What does then? The Switch is considered Gen 9 because The WIi U was a massive bust.

If they had back to back bust would the Switch have been Gen 10 then?

Why is the X1X not considered a new generation? The PS4 pro was barely an update but consider the original X1 and the X1X - huge difference.

What causes a generation change?

The X1X is an X1.  It plays the same games and adds nothing but more power, but with the same CPU bottleneck.

The Switch is not the same as a WiiU.  Aside from more power it functions completely different, can literally be played anywhere, has its own library, and is the successor to Nintendo's 8th gen console rather than being a mid gen refresh like the X1 and PS4 had.  That makes it 9th gen bub.  Nintendo moved forward into 9th gen in their own way, while Sony and MS decided to drag gen 8 out with refreshes.

OT Switch will dominate for two reasons.  Number is that there won't be enough stock for the new consoles to even touch Switch sales.  And number 2 is that Switch sales are not slowing anytime soon, and next year looks packed with exclusive games so really holiday 2021 will be much more interesting IMO.

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Switch, easily. I think PS5 will be harder to get for sure, but Switch is in its 4th holiday season and has a tonne of momentum and a whole lot more stock. Switch definitely.



Why am I seeing confusion over what console generation the Switch falls under? It may have been a move we have never seen before but Nintendo had to start over and re enter a generation half way through. This gen has been the longest. Switch will be 3yrs 8mth old when the PS/XSX come out. Switch can run 1080p/60fps at best - Its an 8th gen console.



KingJames said:
Why am I seeing confusion over what console generation the Switch falls under? It may have been a move we have never seen before but Nintendo had to start over and re enter a generation half way through. This gen has been the longest. Switch will be 3yrs 8mth old when the PS/XSX come out. Switch can run 1080p/60fps at best - Its an 8th gen console.

Then... What's the WiiU? 7.5?

If power defined consoles, the larger gulf between x1 and X1X determine a new generation? No it doesn't.

New hardware, new games, new method of functionality and if you've been noting the trend here, new generation. 



If Nintendo slaps an Animal Crossing or Mario Kart bundle or both. It will outsell PS5 and XSXS. Tho Switch is not the 8th or 9th generation. It's in its own classification.

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Almost definitely it will be Switch, assuming that they're available. Supplies are likely to be tight for both XBSX and PS5, so it doesn't even matter if more people want to buy them. They just won't be able to sell units that don't exist.



KingJames said:
Why am I seeing confusion over what console generation the Switch falls under? It may have been a move we have never seen before but Nintendo had to start over and re enter a generation half way through. This gen has been the longest. Switch will be 3yrs 8mth old when the PS/XSX come out. Switch can run 1080p/60fps at best - Its an 8th gen console.

You are seeing confusion over what gen Switch is, because you yourself typed in the notion that Switch is gen 8 out of confusion.

I mean hell, most of your reasoning would point to the Wii being a gen 6 console.  The Gamecube fell short in sales, and the Wii couldn't even do 720p.  Do you see how ridiculous trying to judge generations on power alone looks?

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Shiken said:
KingJames said:
Why am I seeing confusion over what console generation the Switch falls under? It may have been a move we have never seen before but Nintendo had to start over and re enter a generation half way through. This gen has been the longest. Switch will be 3yrs 8mth old when the PS/XSX come out. Switch can run 1080p/60fps at best - Its an 8th gen console.

You are seeing confusion over what gen Switch is, because you yourself typed in the notion that Switch is gen 8 out of confusion.

I mean hell, most of your reasoning would point to the Wii being a gen 6 console.  The Gamecube fell short in sales, and the Wii couldn't even do 720p.  Do you see how ridiculous trying to judge generations on power alone looks?

I didn't just define it by power. Switch launch is 3yrs 8months apart from PS5/XSX launch. The Wii U was a failure that Nintendo literally discontinued entirely 2 months before the Switch launched. They completely started over. 8th gen is historic for 2 things - mid gen major upgrades to consoles, as well as a competitor releasing a 2nd console in the same generation to replace the first console due to failure. People actually trying to say the 9th gen started with the Switch in 2017? Or XB1 S/PS4 Pro in 2016? Its just funny to me. 



KingJames said:
Shiken said:

You are seeing confusion over what gen Switch is, because you yourself typed in the notion that Switch is gen 8 out of confusion.

I mean hell, most of your reasoning would point to the Wii being a gen 6 console.  The Gamecube fell short in sales, and the Wii couldn't even do 720p.  Do you see how ridiculous trying to judge generations on power alone looks?

I didn't just define it by power. Switch launch is 3yrs 8months apart from PS5/XSX launch. The Wii U was a failure that Nintendo literally discontinued entirely 2 months before the Switch launched. They completely started over. 8th gen is historic for 2 things - mid gen major upgrades to consoles, as well as a competitor releasing a 2nd console in the same generation to replace the first console due to failure. People actually trying to say the 9th gen started with the Switch in 2017? Or XB1 S/PS4 Pro in 2016? Its just funny to me. 

What I find funny is that Switch will most likely be up against the PS5 and XSX for more than half its life regardless, and yet some people are still in denial about it being gen 9.  Especially if the Switch gets a mid gen refresh of its own, your entire argument goes up in flames.

Again, Nintendo did not "start over" in gen 8.  MS and Sony just waited longer to move on due to their mid gen refreshes.  The WiiU being a failure has nothing to do with that.



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Shiken said:
KingJames said:

I didn't just define it by power. Switch launch is 3yrs 8months apart from PS5/XSX launch. The Wii U was a failure that Nintendo literally discontinued entirely 2 months before the Switch launched. They completely started over. 8th gen is historic for 2 things - mid gen major upgrades to consoles, as well as a competitor releasing a 2nd console in the same generation to replace the first console due to failure. People actually trying to say the 9th gen started with the Switch in 2017? Or XB1 S/PS4 Pro in 2016? Its just funny to me. 

What I find funny is that Switch will most likely be up against the PS5 and XSX for more than half its life regardless, and yet some people are still in denial about it being gen 9.  Especially if the Switch gets a mid gen refresh of its own, your entire argument goes up in flames.

Again, Nintendo did not "start over" in gen 8.  MS and Sony just waited longer to move on due to their mid gen refreshes.  The WiiU being a failure has nothing to do with that.

The Switch will be an 8th gen console that will extend into the 9th gen. Who knows how long they will extend the Switch family into said gen. A "Switch Pro" would be the 9th gen version of the Switch, are you seriously not understanding that concept? Ps4 and XB1 lifecycle ends at 7 years, just like PS3 and less than X360. Yes, Nintendo started over. Wii U got DISCONTINUED 4 years and 2 months after launch. Switch is around 7 months away from passing its lifecycle. Nearly every site and source online cites the Switch as an 8th gen console. End of discussion.