I dont think Switch is going to take away from consoles. I think Xbox is just going to decline because of their new model. PS5 is just going to decline overall from PS4 just because not everyone is going to choose to upgrade. Some people have budget constraints so if they can play the same games on PS4 they will hold off on upgrading. I think initial sales will be really good for both systems. There are still a lot of hardcore fans of each system. But i think sales are going to slow quicker. Dont forget there are also new competitors in the arena. Amazon and Google with their cloud gaming. Nvidia has their streaming. I just think console sales overall will decline, however, i still see a huge market for handheld gaming.

But Sony isn't my favourite company, supporting companies is stupid. Big companies are split between the ones that don't care about you and the ones that are good at pretending they do. I'm not buying an Xbox because I have a PC and it would be a waste of money. We can talk all day about the things Sony are doing wrong, but I don't think not having a game pass equiv is one of them.

I just don't expect video game publishers to give me remasters for free as they've all shown pretty much across the board they're unwilling to do so. GOW3 Remaster, TLOU Remastered, Master Chief Collection, the 3D Mario remasters, the COD Remasters, All the JRPG Remasters we've seen, like basically every remaster that's ever been released hasn't been free for those who owned the earlier copy. So my expectations are just low at this point so I dont really bat an eyelid at Spiderman remastered not being free. I don't know if everyone just has really short memories cause you'd think that we haven't been charged for 1000 remasters by every publisher before..

I don't have PS Now as I currently don't have a playstation console and should really update my sig but it would be nice to have more permanent games from playstation studios.

100 million Steam users + 50 Million Xbox users + 15 million Gamepass users < 100 million Steam users + 50 Million Xbox users +15 Million Gamepass users + 110 Million Playstation users + 70 Million Switch users. Android is irrelevant. If you seriously think phone games are good or worthwhile, then you need to turn in your hardcore gamer card.

Not to mention that Steam users often are Xbox users, and Xbox users often are Gamepass users. There's going to be some overlap there. Overlap is much less likely with Playstation users.

Finally, Gamepass isn't sustainable without drastically raising the price. If you can show me the internal Xbox numbers proving otherwise please do.

You don’t have to own their system to play their games, but the Series X/S will remain the most affordable gate to their services and games. So your view appears to be short-sighted and most likely comes from a biased position.

Thats the thing, there are multiple ways for MS to get the money from consumers.  Be it XCloud, Gamepass, Series X/S software sales, or PC sales, that is how MS gets the most out of each purchase.  By putting games on only those services, you will have PS5 owners in most cases finding a way to play the games even of they never buy a Series X/S.  Sure they would get money based on each sale on PS5 if they put them there, but it does nothing to support their actual goals (which is to get gamers to use one of their services).

As for gamepass, there will be a price hike overtime.  Anyone who thinks otherwise is lying to themselves.  First they will cut their losses and continue to grow the concept however, which these exclusive IPs will help facilitate.  Then once they win everyone over, they will raise the price.  But that is ok because the value is already insane, and there will still be more value to make up for the price hike as the services continue to develop.

Remember, if anyone can afford to lose money to make money in the long term, it is MS.  The fact that they are spending 7.5 billion on acquisitions tells me they are all in, and to me if they planned on bringing their newly aquired IPs to other platforms they would have said so outright, instead of dancing around it with a typical PR response.

Think about it, how do they get PS5 gamers to use one of their services?  They aquire IPs that PS5 gamers already love and make it exclusive to those services.

Yeah..............sorry OP. I strongly disagree. Companies gobbling up other companies, "FORCING" you to want to buy their system just for some now-exclusive game, is kinda lame. Especially something big like Elder Scrolls or Doom. Hopefully they'll be smart and keep those multi-console. They can have exclusive SPIN-OFFS all they want. But keep the main entries in those series available for everyone.

You mean like how something big like Spiderman games used to come to XBox as well, but the most recent one and its sequel...

Lol what? First time I heard that. The general idea is that invested PC gamers have little use for a Xbox console these days if Steam, Windows Store and PC Game Pass gets all the 1st party content. Been like this for over 4 years. 

The stereotype is that PC gamers either have a Switch or a PS. “Why get a Xbox when I can play all their games on PC” is a tried and true battlecry from the PS camp haha. 

Frankly, PC and Xbox console is big enough for what they got coming. We don’t need to share and frankly it’s a little funny that the most proud faction in gaming is asking Xbox (!?!?) for ports of their 1st party games. Try saying that sentiment 2 years ago and not get laughed out of the internet ;)

Also you forget Game Pass isn’t the sole income for Xbox. Full purchases on Xbox console, Steam, and Windows Store pick up the slack for upfront, short term income. Xbox games dominated the Steam charts for many months of the year earlier. By itself GP may or may not be sustainable. Good thing the entire ecosystem helps each other out. 

Sorry your hate for Xbox supersedes your desire to play games you want to play. Not much we can do there.

I mean worst case you can stream on your Android if you really feel you don’t want to be part of team green. You still will, albeit indirectly. 

Xbox has a clear message to consumers this gen. All that matters is if they can provide great games under their name whether they are exclusive or not. They've clearly identified as a multiplatform, service based console. The days of true console wars is over, Xbox could give af if they sell less than PS5 they just want to give people the ultimate multiplatform option, their service based option.