Well you certainly embody the final negative narrative pretty nicely. Does having more studios mean every game they make is gonna be great? Nope, but it increases the probability. And again, mathematically speaking the % odds in Xbox’s favour have drastically increased with 23 studios. 

You stuck in the past. I mean just objectively look at their business decisions in the last 2 years and it’s very hard to make the argument this is the same MS as 10 years ago. 

It's like you purposely ignore what I said. I didn't think it was the best 1st party output, but then you decide to still make it seem like I did by explaining why it's not. 

The point I'm making is, Xbox is on an upward trajectory. Looking at the previous 1st party games from Xbox, this is an improvement, and it will only get better. Notice how you are the only one arguing this? 

In regards to their 10 games not being on the same level as PS4 games this year...think you moving the goal posts. Thought we were talking Xbox games drought and lack of quality? 10 1st party games in a year with all getting good scores aside from Bleeding Edge puts a dent in your narrative. 

So what you do? Say all these games aren’t as popular. Genius. I wouldn’t dismiss the popularity of certain games though, even if they don’t hit the bar you set. I’m sorry, not every game is a “single player 3rd person story driven action adventure” :p Xbox actually appeals to the niche gamers too. 

You can't just say someone's stuck in the past because they're judging an entity on the last 10 years of their actions. What I'm doing here is literally the most logical thing you can do in a situation like this: Be cautious and not let hype get the better of me. One can really only determine if they trust someone or something based on their actions, which is what I'm doing. You're reacting based on your hopes and dreams. 

I am not ignoring what was said and I did not say that you argued it was the best. At most this is slowing their downward trend, there is no upswing here. 

You're right. Going from 6 1st party developers to 23 in 2 years is certainly not an upswing. Maybe they can finally claw out of pathetic to mediocre if their lucky./s

Im reacting based on facts. The Series X specs relative to Xbox One vs PS4 specs tells me they recognize people like me want superior multiplats. You don’t acquire some of my favourite IPs like Doom, Elder Scrolls and Fallout and not be taking 1st party seriously. I like revisiting older games or ones I missed and it’s nice to know they respect gaming history and even invested to improve them on Series X. 

You putting yourself into a predictable box. Treating Xbox like a bad ex-girlfriend. This isn’t relationships...it’s video games. You shouldn’t be stuck in the past how Xbox wronged you years ago, you look at what Xbox is doing TODAY and see if it’s something you’d like. 

Buying into a gaming brand is not a big commitment. If Xbox let’s me down, I trade in my Xbox like a normal person. No biggie. You can easily buy a Series S or stream from your android device. You choosing this hill to die on is pointless given how easy it is to get in and out of the ecosystem. I ask to consider dropping the Vegeta levels of pride.

No hopes and dreams on my end. Xbox 1st party have the IPs I want to play. Their backwards compatibility is second to none. They have the best specs for the multiplats I want to play. They cover the genres I want to play. They make multiplayer games I want to play. 

TIL titles like Wasteland 3 and Ori are tiny tiny indie titles no one has ever heard of. As a bonus, I learned that going from six studios to over twenty, and having a great software year means you’re still on a downward trend, it just slows it a bit. Thanks Chartz.

MS definitely put themselves back in the game competitively. Xbox looks to be the most attractive this holiday. Wish I could find one. Even if I do, I won't get it on launch day.

I think at this point you guys should come to terms with the fact that there is absolutely nothing you could say to Runa216. His disappointment with Xbox is just way too deep for any of us.

Anything you guys can say? Naw. You have absolutely no bearing on what Microsoft does in the next 5-8 years. I've been presented with all the evidence, exposed to 10 years of experience, and have not been impressed with anything they've done outside of Ori and Cuphead for the past 10 years (Both of which are on Switch and Cuphead is on PS4). The only thing that'll change my mind is if Microsoft actually fulfills the potential they've been promising for the last decade and entirely too many of you are absolutely certain of.

I gave them a chance. I got an Xbox, barely used it. I got an Xbox 360, bought more games for it than PS2, but it broke within 2 years and I had to get it replaced. Bought an Xbox One within a year of launch and used it less for gaming than I did updating the firmware. They've done nothing in the past 20 years to impress me, and at their absolute best they were unable to outdo Sony at their worst in terms of console sales. They HAD some great franchises, but they seem incapable of making new ones and the ones they do have have been going downhill. 

They lack in quality titles.

They lack in quantity or frequency of release.

They lack in diversity (All their stuff is heavily and exclusively USA/western focused)

They focus on things I don't give a shit about (GamePass and Backwards compatibility)

And the Xbox has literally no exclusives. 

My issue isn't so much with Microsoft as a whole, but Xbox. I have 0 reasons to get an Xbox. I have very few reasons to get Gamepass, and the games Microsoft does own are so homogenized in terms of look and feel that I just don't see myself getting anything that isn't Bethesda-developed. Of all their franchises, the only things I care about are Elder Scrolls and Fallout. I like new Doom but I don't care about it. And unlike Sony, they can't seem to make new IPs work or get the sort of fame that stuff like Horizon or Bloodborne or Ghost of Tsushima. They can't make new franchises, they can barely keep the franchises they have performing at a high level, and I don't think there's much of anything that some random forumgoer can tell me that'll make me completely change my values. 

Until Microsoft actually delivers on those promises - something they historically have not really done a great job doing - I will continue to be soured on the brand. And no, releasing Grounded is not enough. The list people have been giving about all the great games on the platform have me scratching my head, thinking 'wait, that actually came out?' only to google it and find that most people didn't give a shit. 

They have nothing. Not yet. I will gladly change my stance if new evidence is presented, but until that happens they're useless and completely not to my tastes. I'm not buying a console for like 5 games when I can get them all on PC.