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I think the best is...

Original series 8 11.94%
 
The Next Generation 34 50.75%
 
Deep Space Nine 8 11.94%
 
Voyager 11 16.42%
 
Enterprise 3 4.48%
 
Discovery 2 2.99%
 
Picard 1 1.49%
 
Total:67
trunkswd said:
curl-6 said:

Yeah Terra Prime was a good episode, I wouldn't have minded it being the last of the series.

I still think Voyager has by far the best series finale in Endgame.

I agree Endgame is the best series finale in the series. Though, TNG finale was a great sendoff to the series, but it wasn't really a finale to the cast as they went straight into filming Generations. DS9 finale was decent, but it feels a bit rushed with how quickly the war ended. 

I'd rank the finales as: Voyager > TNG > DS9 > Enterprise > TOS. Not that TOS had a real finale. 

This is pretty much how I see it too… at least as far as the TNG, DS9, Voyager finales go—I haven’t seen Enterprise and TOS didn’t really have a series finale, that was kind of what the films were for.

While I did like TNG’s ending, I felt Voyager had a bit more oomph to it as an episode, and was much more satisfying as a finale.

I honestly don’t really recall DS9s ending as I found the whole war to be a bit anticlimactic compared to the build up to the war - granted, I watched DS9 AFTER Babylon 5, Stargate, Farscape, and Battlestar Galactica which all had much stronger stories regarding war, and felt much more visceral. So when watching DS9 and seeing this guy who carried himself like a University Dean, suddenly outclassing the greatest admirals in Star Fleet and the Klingon Empire with really whimsical style leadership, it felt a bit off. Also, the one time he made a mistake and went into a multi-episode depression and redemption arc was a bit frustrating. Then the Pah Wraith things that seemed like a really junior version of the Ori from Stargate. Anyway, I kind of felt like the war was a bit like the Farscape film that came out around two years after the show ended, a little bit contrived to get the war to the inevitable plot point. I admit, if I hadn’t seen all those other sci-fi’s with war and/or military focus first, I might have appreciated DS9 more. The one really exceptional part of the DS9 ending episodes I recall was Damar’s betrayal of the Dominion… but I am sure that happened before the finale.

Now, some might say the same about Voyager’s ending - they got to the desired ending. But Voyager was a little different, the ending occurred years before the beginning of the episode, and Janeway goes back in time to one of the moments where Voyager was in range of a path home through a Borg trans warp conduit. Personally, I can’t think of a better way to end the show. It made for great drama, great action, and an explosive ending. The stakes were also escalated quite a bit because of death, suffering, and debilitating disease conditions - all that was on the line. I felt it enough that you can imagine the hardships that followed between the end of the series proper and the future setting of the final episode. Another thing I just want to tack on, this wasn’t the first opportunity they had to make it home, it was only the best one… and not just because of the Voyager crew, but because Janeway could land an opportunistic blow against the Borg… although, massively breaking one of the major laws of the Federation - but that’s been a big part of Star Trek since the original show.

As far as TOS is concerned. I tend to watch from start to City on the Edge of Forever. Not that I dislike all the rest of it, only that I find those first 28 episodes to be exceptionally good, and the show takes a notable quality dip afterward. It’s also a fantastic episode to end the show on given it’s, without need of argument, one of the best episodes in sci-fi television history.

Last edited by Jumpin - on 22 June 2021

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shikamaru317 said:

I did a full rewatch of all of the older series from late last year till June this year, so this one is easy for me. My personal ranking: 

  1. Voyager- Unpopular opinion I know, but I've always liked Voyager best, ever since I was a kid. Great cast of characters (there isn't a single main character that I don't like, though Kes is probably the weakest of the bunch, trading her in for 7 of 9 was the best decision they could have made), interesting setting, love the heavy focus on the Borg, best set designs, best uniform design of all the series (DS9 only used it for the first 2 seasons before they switched to the TNG movie uniforms)
  2. DS9- I did not like DS9 much at all when I was younger, but as an adult it speaks to me so much more now. Alot of the characters that I didn't like originally have grown on me over time, like Bashir and Quark. Love the heavy focus on religion/faith vs science, and the focus on war, neither of which is seen much in other Trek series.
  3. TNG- Most people's favorite I suspect, I personally find it a bit overrated though. First 2 seasons were a bit of a slog to get through on my recent rewatch, there was too much TOS influence in those 2 seasons which really dragged it down. Gets better on the later seasons due to less influence from Roddenberry. I like most of the TNG characters, but TNG imo has the worst engineer of all the series (Geordi, who is a pretty boring character most of the time), and the 2 worst Doctors of all the series, Crusher and Pulaski, one of which was insufferably boring while the other was a poor female copy of McCoy.
  4. Enterprise- Very underrated show. First 2 seasons were a bit hit and miss, but the show got way better on 3rd season with the Xindi arc and stayed good on season 4, but sadly the first 2 seasons had already done their damage and caused the show to bleed too many viewers, so the show was cancelled before it got the full 7 seasons it deserved. Mostly good characters, not a big fan of Phlox though (3rd worst Doctor after Crusher and Pulaski), and Hoshi and Travis were hit and miss at times, but I liked the rest of them.
  5. TOS- By the time I was born TOS was already quite old and dated, and it has only got older and more dated since then. I was just never able to get into it, everything from the design, to the effects, to the acting feels corny and dated to me. I like most of the TOS movies, aside from the 1st one, with Star Trek 4 being my overall favorite Star Trek movie (followed closely by First Contact), but the TOS show just isn't for me. 
  6. Discovery- Saw one episode of it and absolutely hated it. Visual design is horribly inconsistent with the other series, characters are terrible, plots are terrible. CBS locking it (and Picard) behind a paywall in the US also leaves a very sour taste in my mouth.

Haven't watched Picard yet, not sure if I ever will to be honest, as I have trouble believing that the same CBS that made Discovery actually was able to make a worthy successor to TNG era Trek. The writers on The Orville seem to understand TNG era Trek fans better than CBS and their writers do. 

I grew up on everything, but Deep space nine. Was too much like a Soap opera to me, more so than the others.

But Voyager is my favorite, have not gone back to it over the years like I have with the original and TNG, but that is because they just have such great and memorable episodes.

Why did I say I like Voyager more then? Was my teen years, got to watch from the beginning and never missed an episode or I would watch the late repeat after midnight. Was always thrilling, especially Hell Season!



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Does anyone know if The Orville Season 2 is available on blu-ray anywhere? I can only find it on DVD. Why is technology moving backwards....

The expanse season 4 did finally come to blu-ray, was good, although not as 'big' as the earlier seasons. It all felt smaller, lower budget I guess. I wonder when season 5 will come to blu-ray.

I have given up on Star trek. It's gone from tv and isn't good enough to buy. I guess I can watch the originals again.



SvennoJ said:

Does anyone know if The Orville Season 2 is available on blu-ray anywhere? I can only find it on DVD. Why is technology moving backwards....

The expanse season 4 did finally come to blu-ray, was good, although not as 'big' as the earlier seasons. It all felt smaller, lower budget I guess. I wonder when season 5 will come to blu-ray.

I have given up on Star trek. It's gone from tv and isn't good enough to buy. I guess I can watch the originals again.

I found Expanse Season 5 to be better than 4 personally; it feels more in line with earlier seasons in terms of scope, at least more so than 4.

I can't find Orville on Blu Ray either, but I did realize I never revisited this thread since finishing Season 2 a few months back. It was awesome, definitely the best "Trek" since the conclusion of Voyager, while still having an identity of its own. Really hyped for Season 3 of that, while I have virtually no interest in the next seasons of Picard or Discovery. Star Trek really needs a hiatus and then a complete reboot at this point, in my opinion.



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curl-6 said:
SvennoJ said:

Does anyone know if The Orville Season 2 is available on blu-ray anywhere? I can only find it on DVD. Why is technology moving backwards....

The expanse season 4 did finally come to blu-ray, was good, although not as 'big' as the earlier seasons. It all felt smaller, lower budget I guess. I wonder when season 5 will come to blu-ray.

I have given up on Star trek. It's gone from tv and isn't good enough to buy. I guess I can watch the originals again.

I found Expanse Season 5 to be better than 4 personally; it feels more in line with earlier seasons in terms of scope, at least more so than 4.

I can't find Orville on Blu Ray either, but I did realize I never revisited this thread since finishing Season 2 a few months back. It was awesome, definitely the best "Trek" since the conclusion of Voyager, while still having an identity of its own. Really hyped for Season 3 of that, while I have virtually no interest in the next seasons of Picard or Discovery. Star Trek really needs a hiatus and then a complete reboot at this point, in my opinion.

Hmm, so it's either a month of Disney+ (11.99), buy on Apple TV (29.99) or buy on DVD (24.99).

I'm not going to support streaming which ruined TV for me, ordered S1 and S2 on DVD instead. (No point just having S2 imo). At least DVD loads fast! It's gonna be a bit rough watching on 65" 4K tv lol. Is S3 going to be on VHS tape?



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SvennoJ said:
curl-6 said:

I found Expanse Season 5 to be better than 4 personally; it feels more in line with earlier seasons in terms of scope, at least more so than 4.

I can't find Orville on Blu Ray either, but I did realize I never revisited this thread since finishing Season 2 a few months back. It was awesome, definitely the best "Trek" since the conclusion of Voyager, while still having an identity of its own. Really hyped for Season 3 of that, while I have virtually no interest in the next seasons of Picard or Discovery. Star Trek really needs a hiatus and then a complete reboot at this point, in my opinion.

Hmm, so it's either a month of Disney+ (11.99), buy on Apple TV (29.99) or buy on DVD (24.99).

I'm not going to support streaming which ruined TV for me, ordered S1 and S2 on DVD instead. (No point just having S2 imo). At least DVD loads fast! It's gonna be a bit rough watching on 65" 4K tv lol. Is S3 going to be on VHS tape?

Yeah fuck supporting Disney or Apple, they'll never see a cent from me. I watched Orville on Youtube and Expanse when it was on Netflix and then via a free trial of Amazon which I then canceled before they could bill me.



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