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Shaq was very one dimensional. But that one thing he excelled at, he really really excelled at. Nothing wrong with that. Also, his defense was “good” at best.



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Chrkeller said:
Chris Hu said:

You can be an all-time great without being close to being in the top ten or even the top ten in the position you play in.  I'm going with the NFL to prove my, point Marcus Allen, Franco Harris, O. J. Simpson, John Elway, Johnny Unitas, Dan Fouts, Steve Young, Terry Bradshaw, Bart Starr, Art Monk, Steve Largent, Michael Irvin, Don Hutson, Elroy Hirsch, Darrell Green, Mel Renfro, John Lynch, Richard Dent, John Randle, Randy White, Warren Sapp, Bob Lilly, and Merlin Olson are all all-time greats without being close to being in the top ten or top ten in their position they played.

The NFL comparison falls flat for me.  A NFL roster has 53 players, NBA has 15 players.  Of course an NFL all time great list is larger than an NBA.

But since we aren't making progress, let us try a different tactic.  Where do you rank Curry?  Top 15?  Top 20?  Top 30?  

Top 25, close to the top 20.  That being said there are at least 10 players under 30 currently in the NBA that will end up with better career by the time they are done playing Luka and Giannis are on the top of that list.



Chrkeller said:
ShadowSoldier said:

Exceptional passer???  He averaged 2.5 assists a game....  yeah I watched him, he was unstoppable due to size and strength.  Highly skilled at multiple aspects of the game, not so much.  He dominated the paint.....  and only the paint..  sounds one dimensional to me.

Also I like it when people resort to be being rude once they start losing an argument.  Classic internet.

2.5 assist is not as bad as it sounds Patrick Ewing, David Robinson and Moses Malone other all-time great centers averaged less assists per game.  People sure like to forget that he averaged close to 11 rebounds and 2.3 blocked shots per game so no he wasn't one dimensional he could play offense and defense.



Chris Hu said:
Chrkeller said:

2.5 assist is not as bad as it sounds Patrick Ewing, David Robinson and Moses Malone other all-time great centers averaged less assists per game.  People sure like to forget that he averaged close to 11 rebounds and 2.3 blocked shots per game so no he wasn't one dimensional he could play offense and defense.

Interesting you left out Jokic, Wilt, Russell, Kareem....  maybe because they averaged more assists per game?

Calling Curry one dimensional while saying Shaq wasn't seems odd.  But agree to disagree.  



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It was sadly confirmed earlier today that the legendary Bill Russell, one of the pioneers of today's game and one of the greatest players of all time, has passed away at the age of 88.

11x NBA Champion including 2 as a player/coach and 8 in a row - something that will never be duplicated.
5x League MVP
And one of the greatest defenders the league has ever seen.

But his accolades on the court PALE in comparison to his impact off of it. His non[stop battle and advocacy for Civil Rights, Equality, and Social Justice, especially during the height of the 60s and the Civil Rights Movement. Dealing with racism everywhere he went during his playing days, even in the very city he played for. Yet he rose above it all to become not only one of the greatest players ever but one of the most important figures in that struggle.
The world is better for having had him in it and he will be dearly missed.

R.I.P. Bill



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Bill Russell and Nichelle Nichols. Goodness, we've lost too many people this year and year's not over yet...



Alex Caruso to GSW for Wiseman. Imma manifest it.



Rockets beat the Bucks!?



KLAMarine said:

Rockets beat the Bucks!?

Fluke. Thought they were tanking.



The Miami Heat making 40 out 40 free throws tonight against the Thunder and setting a new team record for most free throws made without a miss is pretty amazing especially since the old record is from 1982 when the Jazz made 39 out of 39.