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Forums - Sports Discussion - 2022 NBA Offseason - Rest in Peace Bill Russell

burninmylight said:
Machiavellian said:

Why keep Caruso's when you basically just replaced him for less money and did not have to go into a bidding war.

I am not dismissing the stats, I am saying that if you only look at the stat sheet but not the win losses you only tell part of the story.  The key point is that the Lakers without LB and AD would never have made it to the playoffs so they decided to go after another person who can score when both or one are down.  Will this work, who the hell knows but until we see how they work together its all just a bunch of opinions.  The thing is, the team was able to get Russ and also pretty much keep players who shoot above 38% from the 3 which is pretty standard for any team in the NBA at this point in time.  With no cap room, they still have the ability to spread the floor with the current talent of LB and Russ who need floor spacers.

Yes, its great to have individual defensive players but its the defensive scheme and how players communicate and work together that really matters.  Its the coach scheme to understand what the offense is trying to do and either take away their main option or have less capable people handle and shoot the ball.  Really how many iso defensive systems do you see in the NBA.   

Lets not just look at the Playoffs, do not forget before AD and LB got hurt during the regular season they limped into the playoffs.  If it was not for their start before the All Star break, they would have been sitting at home.  

Yeah, I knew you were being facetious with Korver but to be honest when you brought up his name, I was like "Hey, what the hell is Korver doing and then I was thinking didn't he retire".  Lol, I thought that was an interesting article.

Personally,  I really do not care if LA ever gets another championship, my team is Miami which by all intent have made great moves and I see them in the championship dance.  My basic opinion on the Lakers is that they can make it work with Russ.  I believe they have the right tools and this will allow LB mins to decrease which is something I believe he wants.  Does that mean they will be a championship team, I do not care, but I believe they should be interesting to watch with all these old heads running up and down the court for 80+ games.

Welp, you certainly have some explaining to do. Want to try to talk yourself out of it, or would you like to skip straight to the plate of crow?



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The way the Clippers choked in both play in games made their season almost as bad as the Lakers. In the east the two most disappointing teams were the Knicks and the Wizards. Glad the Mavs won today, Luka just needs to come back and help them win one game in Utah and then take help them win their remaining home games. Looks like the 76ers will sweep the Raptors.



Chris Hu said:

The way the Clippers choked in both play in games made their season almost as bad as the Lakers. In the east the two most disappointing teams were the Knicks and the Wizards. Glad the Mavs won today, Luka just needs to come back and help them win one game in Utah and then take help them win their remaining home games. Looks like the 76ers will sweep the Raptors.

The Clippers played without Leonard and George, the two guys the team is built around. They just went the entire season without Leonard. For a guy obsessed with star players and household names, I figured you'd mention that.

I'd also figure that you'd count the Nets as the most disappointing team in the East, seeing as how you pegged them to be the top team in the conference and in the finals right after they got knocked out last year.

Willing to bet that the Sixers won't sweep the Raptors?



burninmylight said:
Chris Hu said:

The way the Clippers choked in both play in games made their season almost as bad as the Lakers. In the east the two most disappointing teams were the Knicks and the Wizards. Glad the Mavs won today, Luka just needs to come back and help them win one game in Utah and then take help them win their remaining home games. Looks like the 76ers will sweep the Raptors.

The Clippers played without Leonard and George, the two guys the team is built around. They just went the entire season without Leonard. For a guy obsessed with star players and household names, I figured you'd mention that.

I'd also figure that you'd count the Nets as the most disappointing team in the East, seeing as how you pegged them to be the top team in the conference and in the finals right after they got knocked out last year.

Willing to bet that the Sixers won't sweep the Raptors?

Paul George played in the first play in game.  I thought you followed the NBA closer than I did.  Even with him missing the second play in game against the Pelicans the Clippers still had enough talent to win that game.  I'm pretty sure the 76ers will sweep the Raptors since they have nobody that can stop Embiid plus the 76ers have a vastly superior backcourt.



Chris Hu said:
burninmylight said:

The Clippers played without Leonard and George, the two guys the team is built around. They just went the entire season without Leonard. For a guy obsessed with star players and household names, I figured you'd mention that.

I'd also figure that you'd count the Nets as the most disappointing team in the East, seeing as how you pegged them to be the top team in the conference and in the finals right after they got knocked out last year.

Willing to bet that the Sixers won't sweep the Raptors?

Paul George played in the first play in game.  I thought you followed the NBA closer than I did.  Even with him missing the second play in game against the Pelicans the Clippers still had enough talent to win that game.  I'm pretty sure the 76ers will sweep the Raptors since they have nobody that can stop Embiid plus the 76ers have a vastly superior backcourt.

So yes, like I said, the Clips played without Paul and George. You think missing their two most important players, the ones swallowing up the vast majority of the cap and the team is constructed around, are so much more talented than the Pelicans that it didn't matter? I don't just follow the NBA closer than you, I apparently follow a different league. I get that you don't know a thing about CJ McCollum since he was a second round pick stuck in Portland for the longest time, but figured you'd at least heard of Brandon Ingram since he's made an all-star team. Maybe even Lonzo Ball.

But no, Reggie Jackson and Nic Batum were supposed to carry a Clippers squad against a Pelicans team that had won nine of its last 13 games before running into the Grizzlies and Warriors to end the season... and in both games, didn't even dress Ingram or Ball and only played McCollum five minutes against Golden State while both Memphis and Golden State played all of their starters normal minutes, lol.

If you're so sure the Sixers will sweep the Raptors, then bet on it. Sig control, unless you're really feeling confident and want to up the stakes.



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Glad my Mavericks got at least one game. I don’t see them winning more than one or two with Luka out. If you have to rely on Maxi hitting 8 three pointers and Brunson having career games, it’s not going to end well on most nights.

On the flip side I gotta wonder what the Jazz coaches were thinking in game two, they made no adjustments as the game went on. It also showcases the fact that if Luka were playing and healthy, this would be like a five game series max.



LudicrousSpeed said:

Glad my Mavericks got at least one game. I don’t see them winning more than one or two with Luka out. If you have to rely on Maxi hitting 8 three pointers and Brunson having career games, it’s not going to end well on most nights.

On the flip side I gotta wonder what the Jazz coaches were thinking in game two, they made no adjustments as the game went on. It also showcases the fact that if Luka were playing and healthy, this would be like a five game series max.

What happened to Luka will be a cautionary tale on why coaches rest players in the last few games of the regular season when their playoff positioning is decided. I wouldn't declare it to be a genteman's sweep though.



burninmylight said:
LudicrousSpeed said:

Glad my Mavericks got at least one game. I don’t see them winning more than one or two with Luka out. If you have to rely on Maxi hitting 8 three pointers and Brunson having career games, it’s not going to end well on most nights.

On the flip side I gotta wonder what the Jazz coaches were thinking in game two, they made no adjustments as the game went on. It also showcases the fact that if Luka were playing and healthy, this would be like a five game series max.

What happened to Luka will be a cautionary tale on why coaches rest players in the last few games of the regular season when their playoff positioning is decided. I wouldn't declare it to be a genteman's sweep though.

The irony is, he woulda been suspended for that game in which he got injured, except the NBA rescinded that technical. The suspension would have done them a favor lol.



burninmylight said:

So yes, like I said, the Clips played without Paul and George. You think missing their two most important players, the ones swallowing up the vast majority of the cap and the team is constructed around, are so much more talented than the Pelicans that it didn't matter? I don't just follow the NBA closer than you, I apparently follow a different league. I get that you don't know a thing about CJ McCollum since he was a second round pick stuck in Portland for the longest time, but figured you'd at least heard of Brandon Ingram since he's made an all-star team. Maybe even Lonzo Ball.

But no, Reggie Jackson and Nic Batum were supposed to carry a Clippers squad against a Pelicans team that had won nine of its last 13 games before running into the Grizzlies and Warriors to end the season... and in both games, didn't even dress Ingram or Ball and only played McCollum five minutes against Golden State while both Memphis and Golden State played all of their starters normal minutes, lol.

If you're so sure the Sixers will sweep the Raptors, then bet on it. Sig control, unless you're really feeling confident and want to up the stakes.

Since you didn't get it the first time, I have to say it again Paul George played in the first play in game against the Timberwolves.  Not only did he play in that game he actually did pretty good since he had seven rebounds five assists three steals and thirty-four points.  Plus, they had a decent enough lead going into the fourth quarter that they should easily have won the game.   As for the game against the Pelicans they knew well in advantage that George would miss it they had more than enough time to make pre-game adjustments to make up for him not playing.  Plus, both the Clippers and Pelicans had identical 6-4 records in there last ten games going into the play in tournament.  The Clipper actually where the hottest team of the four teams that made the play in tournament in the West since they won five straight.  As for the 76ers the sweep is still on at least the Raptors deserve some minor credit since they forced today's game to go into overtime.



Bulls making it a series! Very interesting!