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NightlyPoe said:

Think you need to redefine "dagger".  That shot came with the game tied and over 3 minutes left!

Just one of those games were the Blazers got hot in the 4th.  McCollum, Carmelo, and Trent all hit big shots on top of Lillard's signature shots and Whiteside owned the paint.

Forget the free throws, that's just media narrative looking to boil the game down to one factor.  In the grand scheme of things, they were no more meaningful than missing mid-range shots on consecutive trips.  The Lakers just can't shoot in general at the moment.  That's making the difference.  You go 35% from the field and 15% from 3 and you're usually going to lose games by a whole lot more than 7 points.

That and Avery Bradley deciding to be a flake and costing the team the perimeter defense they really need against teams like Portland in the West.

When an opposing player knocks down a shot from near half-court to take the lead, especially after your two best players both missed a pair of free throws, that'll take the wind right out of your sails. I don't care who you are, that's a spirit breaker. Melo and Trent's big shots were set up by Dame's shot and Whiteside's defense. That shot was the turning point. It completely shifted the momentum of the game in Portland's favor. So yes, it was the dagger.

As for the free throws. They're called 'free' throws for a reason. Those are gimme points that the defense is just giving to you. You have to knock them down, especially in crunch time in the playoffs. Absolutely inexcusable. That would have put the Lakers up 4 if A.D. and LeBron had knocked them down and that could've changed the momentum in the Lakers favor. 

So, opting out in order to protect his family, including his six-year old son who has a history of respiratory illnesses (Meaning: He's at risk) makes Avery Bradley a flake? Good to know. He made a decision to put his family first, basketball second, and he shouldn't be faulted for it. If anything, he should be praised. 

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Imagine if Porzingis was not ejected in game one the Mavs could have been up 2-0. Looking forward to game 3



Sure looks like the Heat will have no problems with the Pacers should be a sweep. The Heat are a way better defensive team then the Pacers.



PAOerfulone said:

That shot was the turning point. It completely shifted the momentum of the game in Portland's favor. So yes, it was the dagger.

To clear this up definitively, a "dagger" is a shot that essentially ends the game competitively.  It metaphorically "kills" the other team.  It cannot happen with over 3 minutes left on a shot that leaves it a one-possession game.

Additionally, the Blazers had already been hot and momentum was already with the Blazers.  Lillard's 3 capped off a run where he and McCollum had hit 5 of them in 4 minutes (plus one more in the lane from McCollum) and erased the Lakers only lead of the game.  And while, yes, the Lakers should have hit at least a couple of those free throws, they were nowhere near as essential to the momentum of the game as you believe.

That's really all I'm going to say about that, because it's fighting with a media narrative boiling down a 48 minute game to an easy-to-understand story for the readers and viewers.  Lakers stars missed 4 free throws and Dame hit a 3.  Easy to digest and missing all nuance.  It's just the obnoxious brand that talking-head sports journalism thrives on.

So, opting out in order to protect his family, including his six-year old son who has a history of respiratory illnesses (Meaning: He's at risk) makes Avery Bradley a flake? Good to know. He made a decision to put his family first, basketball second, and he shouldn't be faulted for it. If anything, he should be praised. 

Did you examine that statement from Bradley with any skepticism at all?  Bradley sitting around the house does absolutely nothing to protect his family from an illness.  If anything, the extra body is one more opportunity for the virus to enter his home and modestly increases the family's exposure.

No, that excuse doesn't even pass cursory examination.  For some reason, Bradley really didn't want to go.  First joining Kyrie Irving's grumpy boys in putting a temporary road block on finishing the season and then just bailing on his teammates.  I don't know why he did it.  Maybe he thought the bubble would be dangerous (it's not, it's one of the safest workplaces in the country at the moment), but just because he tossed out that it was for his son's health as a reason, doesn't mean that he's not a flake.

It just makes him a cynical flake.



In a break from playoff action, we've got the Draft Lottery!

Very unique draft this time around, of the 3 teams that have a 14% shot at the #1 pick... One of them is the Golden State Warriors.

The same Golden State Warriors that won 3 championships in 5 trips to the NBA Finals from 2015-2019, and who went through this season without their 3 best players. (Kevin Durant left for Brooklyn in free agency; Klay Thompson and Stephen Curry were injured for most or all of the season.) So, the Warriors could not only go into next season with the Splash Bros. back and healthy to go along with Draymond and new face, Andrew Wiggins, and a young roster. But also the #1 pick - More specifically, what they could get with the #1.



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Here we go...



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I'll laugh if it's the Warriors.



#2 for the Warriors; The Minnesota Timberwolves get the #1 pick.



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Minnesota will likely go with Edwards or LaMelo with their pick. They don't need Wiseman since they already have KAT. It would make sense to pick a backcourt running mate for Russell.



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And I can already hear Stephen A. Smith's cries of agony! X'D



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