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I find this so ironic.

Also the "don't ever touch Epic, Fortnite or Epic partners ever again" rule sounds completely bogus if you ask me. That's like claiming any future bullshit they do is somehow counted as "bullying" by Tim's logic. 



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LurkerJ said:
AsGryffynn said:

Oh how wrong you are. If we want to be stringent, you can. 

https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2016/5/18/11701714/xbox-one-running-windows-95

Sadly, no one has come up with NTBox or they could just run W10 on the thing and breath new life into their unique ecosystem. Technically, you can do that with .ipa files. However, Apple even pulled the ability to sideload without third party installed applications like Cydia or AltStore. 

Genuinely confused with what you're trying to prove with the story you linked, that I am right? I already know that....

That I can sideload shit onto an Xbox One that I cannot into an iPhone without pissing Apple off? 

MS pretty much just tells you “sign here” rather than “you’re not a dev”. 

Not to mention getting your shit from Ebay retailers and secondhand owners that isn’t possible on the App Store. 



I'm still kinda rooting for Epic , but i feel a bit alone in doing so.
In my humble opinion:the less things can be in the grasp of Apple, the more consumer and devfriendly the market becomes.



Immersiveunreality said:
I'm still kinda rooting for Epic , but i feel a bit alone in doing so.
In my humble opinion:the less things can be in the grasp of Apple, the more consumer and devfriendly the market becomes.

I’ll be ultimately happy when all platforms are as open as PC and all content can be sourced directly from the dev. 

It’s also why I hate Steam. 



AsGryffynn said:
Immersiveunreality said:
I'm still kinda rooting for Epic , but i feel a bit alone in doing so.
In my humble opinion:the less things can be in the grasp of Apple, the more consumer and devfriendly the market becomes.

I’ll be ultimately happy when all platforms are as open as PC and all content can be sourced directly from the dev. 

It’s also why I hate Steam. 

And what about Epic?. They are going around gobbling up studios, game devs and vying for exclusivity, trying to get people to go through only their own network, which itself isn't truly open.

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Chazore said:
AsGryffynn said:

I’ll be ultimately happy when all platforms are as open as PC and all content can be sourced directly from the dev. 

It’s also why I hate Steam. 

And what about Epic?. They are going around gobbling up studios, game devs and vying for exclusivity, trying to get people to go through only their own network, which itself isn't truly open.

I'm only supporting their tirade, not them. As soon as Apple comes undone, the only thing I will give them is a middle finger (maybe I'll play Fortnite as a way of saying thanks). 



AsGryffynn said:

I'm only supporting their tirade, not them. As soon as Apple comes undone, the only thing I will give them is a middle finger (maybe I'll play Fortnite as a way of saying thanks). 

Then wouldn't it be better to support someone that actually has everyone's best interests, and not for their own personal gains?. Some people like to think that Epic is doing it for goodwill, but it's more for power gain and like I said before, a means of personal gains, because this won't stop at just Apple or Google, it'll be consoles that come next on his personal chopping block.

See Apple used to be just like Epic (not a game dev mind you), many years ago. They were once a very small company, that rose and stood against IBM and pulled that marketing trailer stunt, only they actually brought a wave of good competitive products to actually make that challenge legit. What Epic is doing is more akin to a hissy fit, and demanding not just one industry, but multiple adhere to their will and desires, and well, if you ask me, that's a really shitty thing to want, because even if they promise Reagan economical trickling equality, I still know that company will want to be the top dog, the one who wants to control whatever they can get their hands on.

LIke I said, I don't like Apple, but I also don't like Epic, like at all. They've a known track record of simply abandoning shit whenever it doesn't suit them, rather than sticking it through, and an old history of mocking platforms and companies for years. I cannot trust them to do anything good and not desire to control anything else from afar.

I'd rather someone challenge Apple with actual noble intentions and 100% no desire to control an industry, let alone multiple, from winning one case after another (because it never stops at one with big companies).



Chazore said:
AsGryffynn said:

I'm only supporting their tirade, not them. As soon as Apple comes undone, the only thing I will give them is a middle finger (maybe I'll play Fortnite as a way of saying thanks). 

Then wouldn't it be better to support someone that actually has everyone's best interests, and not for their own personal gains?. Some people like to think that Epic is doing it for goodwill, but it's more for power gain and like I said before, a means of personal gains, because this won't stop at just Apple or Google, it'll be consoles that come next on his personal chopping block.

See Apple used to be just like Epic (not a game dev mind you), many years ago. They were once a very small company, that rose and stood against IBM and pulled that marketing trailer stunt, only they actually brought a wave of good competitive products to actually make that challenge legit. What Epic is doing is more akin to a hissy fit, and demanding not just one industry, but multiple adhere to their will and desires, and well, if you ask me, that's a really shitty thing to want, because even if they promise Reagan economical trickling equality, I still know that company will want to be the top dog, the one who wants to control whatever they can get their hands on.

LIke I said, I don't like Apple, but I also don't like Epic, like at all. They've a known track record of simply abandoning shit whenever it doesn't suit them, rather than sticking it through, and an old history of mocking platforms and companies for years. I cannot trust them to do anything good and not desire to control anything else from afar.

I'd rather someone challenge Apple with actual noble intentions and 100% no desire to control an industry, let alone multiple, from winning one case after another (because it never stops at one with big companies).

Sadly, no such a company has taken a stand against Apple, so... I work with what I'm given. 



AsGryffynn said:

Sadly, no such a company has taken a stand against Apple, so... I work with what I'm given. 

I just don't wanna be that guy who comes back to tell everyone when Epic becomes that eventual top dog position that Apple is currently in. I just want the issue gone by the roots, rather than allowing another stem to sprout when another is cut off. 



Apple has answered and issued a counterclaim against Epic.