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Decker said:
eva01beserk said:

exactly the point. 

The question I keep seeing from people is them wondering if the game was made for Xbox One and being ported with enhancements to Series X or if it was made with Series X specs in mind and ported down to the One, I personally always thought the former.

For Halo it would have to be the former.  They have been working on it for so long that to be a launch release there just isn't enough time.

Where as Forza is going all next-gen.  Yet there is no release date or gameplay for something that comes out every year.

Last time Forza got split between two studio's. Wonder why they aren't doing that this time..



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Decker said:
eva01beserk said:

exactly the point. 

The question I keep seeing from people is them wondering if the game was made for Xbox One and being ported with enhancements to Series X or if it was made with Series X specs in mind and ported down to the One, I personally always thought the former.

Games are ported forwards 99% of the time. Old shit always holds stuff back, PC gaming has suffered this shit for decades.



Bandorr said:

For Halo it would have to be the former.  They have been working on it for so long that to be a launch release there just isn't enough time.

Where as Forza is going all next-gen.  Yet there is no release date or gameplay for something that comes out every year.

Last time Forza got split between two studio's. Wonder why they aren't doing that this time..

Yeah thats always been my exact thought, though im sure the slipspace engine was made with the series X in mind

Oh yea true that, I forgot they mentioned that about Forza, as for the two studios we do know playground games the ones who made the forza horizon games is making that new Fable, so with Turn 10 being the only developer now I gotta wonder if they will no longer release Forza yearly since like you said we have no release date for this one.



Random_Matt said:

Games are ported forwards 99% of the time. Old shit always holds stuff back, PC gaming has suffered this shit for decades.

I don't blame people for wondering since if we count this current gen we have had multiple games that we made this gen but ported to last gen like,  Shadow of Mordor, Titan fall, Rise of the Tomb Raider, and Black Ops 3. Or even in the case Dying Light where they canceled the last gen version of that game.



Was Halo 3 held back on 360?.



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After watching the MS show, the only games that seemed remotely impressive weren't crossgen (showed as Xbox Series X and PC, no mention of One on the end), so seems like Phill isn't right and for god's sake Goopy may been wrong and the Xbox One didn't hold crossgen down for XSX, but well none looked great.



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Well good news is this problem just solved itself. So many early gen Series X games not including Xbox 1. The 2 year comment does not apply to every game they do. I’m sure that’s a relief for many.



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DonFerrari said:
After watching the MS show, the only games that seemed remotely impressive weren't crossgen (showed as Xbox Series X and PC, no mention of One on the end), so seems like Phill isn't right and for god's sake Goopy may been wrong and the Xbox One didn't hold crossgen down for XSX, but well none looked great.

You might need to clarify. Did you mean goopy was wrong because all the games look bad, not just the crosgen ones?

Because aside from medium if I'm not mistaken was the only xsx only game that was technically demanding. Any other game was just a cg trailer so we know nothing yet.

I dont know, halo was the main topic of discussion on this thread. I think a lot of people owe goopy an apologie after that infinite showcase. 



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eva01beserk said:
DonFerrari said:
After watching the MS show, the only games that seemed remotely impressive weren't crossgen (showed as Xbox Series X and PC, no mention of One on the end), so seems like Phill isn't right and for god's sake Goopy may been wrong and the Xbox One didn't hold crossgen down for XSX, but well none looked great.

You might need to clarify. Did you mean goopy was wrong because all the games look bad, not just the crosgen ones?

Because aside from medium if I'm not mistaken was the only xsx only game that was technically demanding. Any other game was just a cg trailer so we know nothing yet.

I dont know, halo was the main topic of discussion on this thread. I think a lot of people owe goopy an apologie after that infinite showcase. 

Nope he’s wrong. He clung to this notion that EVERY game in the first 2 years would be held back by XB1. However most games we saw didn’t have a XB1 version. Xbox only doing it for smaller games it seems like Grounded but the big titles are purely PC/Series X. Just a lot of fear mongering when now we see Series X games gonna be just fine.

Halo seems to be the only example that he was talking about. It’s literally the only big game with a Xbox One version. He thought it was rule when really it’s the exception to the rule. 



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A very interesting video, DF Direct comments on the Xbox presentation. It seems that they are unanimous in saying that the previous generation has a negative impact on Halo infinite ( meaning they don’t agree with Phil Spencer, and that making Halo infinite crossgen considerably lessens the potential of the game’s graphics). Many comments on the presentation, worth watching.





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