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When will NSW2 come out?

2022 Holiday 15 12.93%
 
2023 Spring 18 15.52%
 
2023 Holiday 21 18.10%
 
2024 Spring 35 30.17%
 
2024 Holiday 17 14.66%
 
2025 Spring 9 7.76%
 
2025 Holiday 0 0.00%
 
2026+ 1 0.86%
 
Total:116
Pyro as Bill said:
tbone51 said:

Nah way more, a holiday release would sell thru well over 10mil and legs would be much stronger 

A new Mario Kart could singlehandedly keep Switch alive for 3-5 extra years (like it did with WiiU).

That’s why I think NSW will have a new MK in 2021, perfect way to keep near 20mil figures for years to come ;)



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Pyro as Bill said:
tbone51 said:

Nah way more, a holiday release would sell thru well over 10mil and legs would be much stronger 

A new Mario Kart could singlehandedly keep Switch alive for 3-5 extra years (like it did with WiiU).

This is assuming that their are millions upon millions of people who would be enticed by MK9 but are not enticed by MK8? Why would that be?

Its potentially the same reason why TLOU2 had a smaller hardware boost for PS4 compared to something like Final Fantasy VIIR. Hardware sellers are about convincing people who haven't already been convinced. This is why I think people grossly overestimated the value of most evergreen sequels ability to extend a platforms life. Nintendo could just keep marketing Mario Kart 8 for the next few years and i imagine it would have near enough the same effect on hardware as selling a new Mario Kart 9. Unless of course Mario Kart 9 comes out looking like a new Pixar Movie and has compelling new USPs which imo hasn't happened since it went online.

MK8 continues to do its magic for the Switch



Pyro as Bill said:
curl-6 said:

BOTW would be impossible on Wii, 3DS, or any Nintendo hardware before Wii U. 

In top down perspective?

What about 3D with lots of loading times?

Then that is not BOTW. BOTW is Nintendo most modern looking Zelda game since Windwaker. Everything since has almost been dated on arrival but BOTW actually could have been a compelling AAA experience on PS4 (obviously you would expect better AA & Resolution but still). I think this shininess & moderness (seamless open world) has helped contribute towards its selling power compared to previous entries.



Pyro as Bill said:
curl-6 said:
Better to hold back MK9 as a killer app launch title for Switch's successor I feel; Switch and BOTW showed how important it is to have a killer app right out of the gate.

Screw that.

They can test MK9 on Switch 1 and Deluxe it with DLC for Switch 2.

Mario Kart is so big now it needs to become Nintendo Kart. Zelda, 3D Mario and Animal Crossing have all hit new heights after being featured in Mario Kart. I think that's the way forward for MK now. Bi-annual DLC and/or subscription exclusive tracks. They could even offer to feature some 3rd party tracks in exchange for certain favours. MK8 showed how crap hardware held back a 50m selling game. If Switch 2 is a flop then so is MK9 (relative to it's potential). If they mess it up they can always reset with Mario Kart 10 on Switch 2 instead of MK9 Deluxe.

This wouldn't work so well. MK8 delux did great for the Switch because most people hadn't played the Wii U version lol.

But again if Nintendo wants to balance releasing software across a huge userbase + building a future platform at the same time, then releasing cross gen works best for that. 



A new console generation means new excitement, everybody in the gaming industry (and most importantly the gamers) is full of enthusiasm. This alone has great selling power even if the new console is just more of the same just in better (graphics).

Does anybody remind the dry presentation of the PS4 Pro? Nobody in the audience cheered and the same lack of excitement was followed on YouTube. And what about Xbox One X? Phil Spencer tried everything to make it BIG, nobody could overhear "the witness of the most powerful console ever“ but the reaction of the gamers was only lukewarm.

Should consoles vanish in the future and be replaced by streaming services you will see how lots of enthusiasm and excitement will be gone forever! You will never ever see next generation games anymore as the technical upgrades will be gradual and minimal and you will only notice them if you compare an current game (in the future) with a 10 or more year old game. I dearly hope we will never have such a future! The gaming industry needs real generations!

Regarding Nintendo Switch, if they can do a handheld only version, they can also do a TV only version (and hopefully they will do so). The demand for it is there. surveys showed that about half of Switch owners play it as handheld and the other half as home console (can't remember if the surveys also shows how many use it as both regularly).

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Yeah, even as someone who hasn't bought a Sony/MS system since the PS3/360, I'm getting excited about PS5/XSX, simply because a new generation (usually) has that sense of something new and impressive, of offering us things we haven't played or seen before in video games.

With incremental upgrades that excitement would be diminished greatly, if not lost altogether.



Bet with Liquidlaser: I say PS5 and Xbox Series X will sell more than 56 million combined by the end of 2023.

Fight-the-Streets said:
A new console generation means new excitement, everybody in the gaming industry (and most importantly the gamers) is full of enthusiasm. This alone has great selling power even if the new console is just more of the same just in better (graphics).

Does anybody remind the dry presentation of the PS4 Pro? Nobody in the audience cheered and the same lack of excitement was followed on YouTube. And what about Xbox One X? Phil Spencer tried everything to make it BIG, nobody could overhear "the witness of the most powerful console ever“ but the reaction of the gamers was only lukewarm.

Should console vanish in the future and be replaced by streaming services you will see how lots of enthusiasm and excitement will be gone forever! You will never ever see next generation games anymore as the technical upgrades will be gradual and minimal and you will only notice them if you compare an current game (in the future) with a 10 or more year old game. I dearly hope we will never have such a future! The gaming industry needs real generations!

Regarding Nintendo Switch, if they can do a handheld only version, they can also do a TV only version (and hopefully they will do so). The demand for it is there. surveys showed that about half of Switch onwers play it as handheld and the other half as home console (can't remember if the surveys also shows how many use it as both regularly).

I hope Ninty releases a home only switch as well and it provides a bit better experience than the current docked version for games. And they set it up where you can seamlessly switch from your home only version to the lite and this continues your game on the go as save data is backed up via cloud. That way the switch marketing would still make sense and Ninty did say the brand is more than the one base console.

And after the release a pro version in 2022 for all 3 iterations. That will extend the life of the switch to 2025 spring where they release the switch 2 with all 3 versions. Just continue switch, switch lite, switch home but with a 2 in front of them and with the pro models a pro in front of them. No need to make it fancy. No unique names or gimmicks. Just keep it simple. It makes sense and anyone can understand it. Nothing like the Wii U where people thought the U was for a version of the Wii with a gamepad tablet.



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Otter said:
Pyro as Bill said:

Screw that.

They can test MK9 on Switch 1 and Deluxe it with DLC for Switch 2.

Mario Kart is so big now it needs to become Nintendo Kart. Zelda, 3D Mario and Animal Crossing have all hit new heights after being featured in Mario Kart. I think that's the way forward for MK now. Bi-annual DLC and/or subscription exclusive tracks. They could even offer to feature some 3rd party tracks in exchange for certain favours. MK8 showed how crap hardware held back a 50m selling game. If Switch 2 is a flop then so is MK9 (relative to it's potential). If they mess it up they can always reset with Mario Kart 10 on Switch 2 instead of MK9 Deluxe.

This wouldn't work so well. MK8 delux did great for the Switch because most people hadn't played the Wii U version lol.

But again if Nintendo wants to balance releasing software across a huge userbase + building a future platform at the same time, then releasing cross gen works best for that. 

GTA has proven that remasters can sell as much if not more than the original. MK8D helped confirm it.

I agree with a lot of what you say re sequels v originals as system sellers but Nintendo makes and breaks rules as often as they follow established rules so it's near impossible to predict what they can/will do given how capable they are when they're in the zone.

I think N can make MK9 different enough to MK8 (Nintendo/Smash Kart) to maximise sales (additive instead of competitive). I wouldn't release MK9 until MK8 has been bundled/preloaded for a year or two.

Every 20m+ selling game could have done 10m+ on weaker hardware with compromises (at least) a gen earlier (Eg Minecraft could and should have been done on N64).

Edit-you should save the lols for when you're 100%+ confident you're right. 

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My guess is 2022 for the succesor.
Full retrocompatibility.
Some 2022 and 2023 Nintendo titles to be released for both consoles.
From 2024 onwards everything is for 2witch.



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Pavolink said:

My guess is 2022 for the succesor.
Full retrocompatibility.
Some 2022 and 2023 Nintendo titles to be released for both consoles.
From 2024 onwards everything is for 2witch.

I think 2022 would be too soon; that would give Switch a shorter time before succession than the 3DS despite it selling way better.

This phased transition some of you are plugging doesn't seem likely either, as the whole point of the Switch is to unify their development efforts into a single system.



Bet with Liquidlaser: I say PS5 and Xbox Series X will sell more than 56 million combined by the end of 2023.