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sales2099 said:
Angelus said:

No, their scores are based on the whole game, they just weren't allowed to speak on, or show, details from the second half of the game.

Ah I see, thanks for clarifying. That just creates more questions then answers. This really is like Star Wars Last Jedi with a clear disconnect between media and end users. 

Yes i agree with you,and i must say your contribution sounds more honest than others cause you are normally not that invested in Sony games.



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Immersiveunreality said:
sales2099 said:

Ah I see, thanks for clarifying. That just creates more questions then answers. This really is like Star Wars Last Jedi with a clear disconnect between media and end users. 

Yes i agree with you,and i must say your contribution sounds more honest than others cause you are normally not that invested in Sony games.

Thank you. At times like this it doesn’t matter where I stand on consoles. When a beloved gaming IP is changed to suit the narratives of the few in charge at the expense of the end users who give their time and money, that’s something I feel I should speak up instead of just let it happen. 



 

 

sales2099 said:
Immersiveunreality said:

Yes i agree with you,and i must say your contribution sounds more honest than others cause you are normally not that invested in Sony games.

Thank you. At times like this it doesn’t matter where I stand on consoles. When a beloved gaming IP is changed to suit the narratives of the few in charge at the expense of the end users who give their time and money, that’s something I feel I should speak up instead of just let it happen. 

Gamers, regardless of the platform(s) they support, should unite when a beloved gaming IP gets dragged through the mud by its creators. It's only appropriate that we should review-bomb The Last of Us Part II hard.

Thread has come full circle. *fistbumps sales2099*



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RolStoppable said:
sales2099 said:

Thank you. At times like this it doesn’t matter where I stand on consoles. When a beloved gaming IP is changed to suit the narratives of the few in charge at the expense of the end users who give their time and money, that’s something I feel I should speak up instead of just let it happen. 

Gamers, regardless of the platform(s) they support, should unite when a beloved gaming IP gets dragged through the mud by its creators. It's only appropriate that we should review-bomb The Last of Us Part II hard.

Thread has come full circle. *fistbumps sales2099*

Good try.

But no,not anything is worth getting too hatefull or too much forced positive reviews.



I hear that metacritic not allowing low review user scores to upload. On a whim I tried and it’s locked in a forever processing command that never actually loads. Things getting fishy with certain implications of true.



 

 

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sales2099 said:
I hear that metacritic not allowing low review user scores to upload. On a whim I tried and it’s locked in a forever processing command that never actually loads. Things getting fishy with certain implications of true.

I tried to give the game a 10 and it did the same thing, so they are likely investigating what is a review bomb and what is actually from someone who reviewed the game.  They did this with BotW and Astral Chain when they got review bombed and removed the obvious trolls.  I expect the same thing to happen here.

And for the record, 10 is not my score.  I have not finished yet and cannot score it.  I am however enjoying it and figured I would just throw a 10 on there till then to counter the review bombs (as a 0 for this game is ridiculous).



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ClassicGamingWizzz said:
sales2099 said:

Why do you think it’s mostly Xbox gamers? If you read them and not cherry pick, they are complaining about the story and Neil Druckman in general. An Xbox gamer has no reason to crap on Neil Druckman. 

You blind, drunk or smoked too Much of that good stuff?

First i didnt even talked about Xbox gamers second do you think i give three shits to bother to read What some loser that didnt even played the game as too say in their 0/10 "review"?

I know there can be tension in these threads, but don't go overboard with personal attacks.
Especially when you have a history of doing things like this. You need to start showing some improvement in this area.

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Chazore said:
Hiku said:

Ah, the 'in general' of bad writing that people who have already played the game have pointed out.
My mistake. Next time I won't judge a story after I experience it, but rather after reading opinions devoid of any context.

Also, you said that 'for some reason' I didn't have the same opinion as you on the story I had barely just started.
I'll be sure to express the same opinion as you next time.

Yeah, you can do that if you want, or still like it regardless of bad writing

You have your own opinion regardless. I never said you had to express one like mine, but the user reviews are telling in the end.

Well on a serious note, someone playing the game would probably not want to read any reviews containing spoilers.
And without the context of specifics it can be quite difficult to understand why someone feels the way they do about the writing.
So whenever I see comments like 'the story is great/sucks', it doesn't really say much to me.

The scene you were referring to for example has additional context revealed as you keep playing. And as I keep playing, I understand more and more why they chose to write the story in the way they did. So I'll have to wait until the end before I say something definitive about how I think it was written.

I have in the past jumped to conclusions about segments being poorly written, only to have something revealed 30 hours later that made me look back at that moment in a very different light. (Nier: Automata)

Also I'm not a professional critic of writing, so whatever I end up thinking in the end shouldn't be surprising. :p

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Personally, I think the story for TLOU2 is horribly written from start to finish.

Spoiler!
The story loses focus, and trys hard to get you to care about someone who is unlikable, who is only in the story because some random NPC died at the very end of the first game. And then there's the whole thing about being attached to ellie and not wanting to sacrifice her for the world. Most people don't live to 100. I just think it's absolutely insane that one could be so selfish to live for another 20 years, best case scanario, and sacrifice the entire human race, just for some temporary enjoyment of one person. And that 20 years, in Joel's case, ended up being 4 years.

I didn't play the game, I watched parts of it on twitch. I don't know if there were any other immune people besides Ellie. Are they written into the story? how about have those people die because of the violence, and revenge Abby and Ellie are about if you REALLY wanna drive home your story about revenge is bad. That way, you don't feel so bad about Joel. I personally feel like him saving Ellie was the dumbest, stupidest thing he could do. He's seen people die. People die. Get over it. He's lost a daughter, Tess, his wife. You'd think eventually he'd be desensitized to it and wouldn't be so attached to Ellie. The whole pandemic changed his life, and not just Ellie, but millions of people have died because of it.

I don't care if it was me that was immune. I'll hop up on the table, just get the cure. No one lives forever, and who's to say we don't come back when it's all over. I certainly don't wanna have to pay for the consequences of my past life in my new one, because I left the world in a bad place. Anyway, yeah. I'm not going to get into that, because emotions get involved. I don't run on emotions when it comes to stuff like that. sacrifice one for 7 billion, or however many people there are on the planet after the plague, without a doubt.

AND... The ending.. what a let down. "Someone needs to be the bigger person and walk away." Whatever. The story is trash and gameplay is padded and offers no current gen gameplay. There's no reason this game couldn't have been produced on PS3, with the visuals turned down a bit. Looks pretty though. A solid 5/10 for me.

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I find it extremely sad that there is so much hatred for lesbians and gays too. I feel like the operators of Meta don't care about the unrealistic 0/1 hate ratings, the main thing is that their side gets attention.

When I read the The Last of Us 2-thread .. the majority are enthusiastic about the game. The strong quality, love to detail and gameplay / story sequences are particularly praised/impressive. After 49 hours of play: For me, the game - together with Persona 5 Royal (and maybe Ghost of Tsushima / Cyberpunk later) - is game of the year 2020, currently.



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