I have 2 wins and level 22, no way I'll manage 5 straight wins to plat it.

Of thing that people seem to ignore on the end of TLOU1 is not only that for Joel the world meant Ellie and it wouldn't be worth to life in a world without her and that is why he was dead set on rescuing her, put that together with he being and feeling betrayed, trapped and jailed. His mental state was totally throwed off and we have to remind that almost everyone on his way was shooting at him to prevent he rescuing Ellie, so yes he saw everyone as enemies so he didn't even need to justify the killing to himself.

Yeah but still doesn't imply he was on Hunter level.  Doing hardcore stuff doesn't mean he was out there killing innocent woman. I think the worst he did was Rob someone of supplies, get into a fight and killed someone. probably tortured someone who wouldn't talk and maybe left him maim or dead.

No. I'd only go for an spin off. I want both Abby and Ellie to go away for good.

Yes. I'd go for a more family friendly, sorta happy ending, 1.5 part. 

Story is very important. Although I haven't found anyone bashing gameplay and mechanics. In this regard, this game is truly something else.

I'd have done the same thing. To avoid my daughter death and to cover up her secret. Most people on that building would try to track my daughter, so they'd have to be taken down.

I'm on the opinion that she had no choice. She was a child and I know better. Children shouldn't decide this sort of things. A bunch of adults that aren't their parents, simply deciding to take her life to do a surgery that could remotely, by some chance, save the world is something that I don't agree with. I bet none of those doctors would do that to their children. So why would they do that to mine, or even worse, to a girl, an orphan, that have no parents to speak for her? I'd speak for her and kill everyone to protect her.

One of the things i like about this game is how the infected look like real people in distress. It makes me feel pain for them. If we get to have grotesque monsters, they'll become just normal monsters and boring.

Story, story telling, and pacing are attributes that can be analysed and rated as it is in books and films. It's not only opinion.

I haven't read many reviews, but the reviewer that most understood what I felt is from Kotaku. It's my favourite review.

https://kotaku.com/the-last-of-us-part-ii-the-kotaku-review-1844006193

Quoting:

"My playthrough of The Last of Us 2 felt terrible to experience. Over the course of my 27 hours with the game, it grew to the point of feeling nearly unbearable. This wasn’t because it asked me hard questions about my own capacity for harm or revenge, or pulled some Spec Ops: The Line-style moralizing about video game violence. Despite Druckmann’s promised “philosophical questions,” I never felt like the game asked me anything. Instead, it told me “brutality,” repeatedly and louder, until by the end I couldn’t hear what it was trying to say at all. Characters make hideous, irredeemable choices, over and over. Everybody suffers, physically and emotionally, in graphic detail. This is all intended to prove a point, but the only point I got from the game was simply to be required to stare at violence, and play through violence, and then do that again, and more, and again, and more."

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"Type of game: Misery simulator"

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"I didn’t find it prurient—the game doesn’t relish in its gory deaths or emotional suffering. It just takes every opportunity to show them, over and over, and decides that counts as saying something about them. It showed me so much ugliness, and in such detail, that I felt numb as terrible things befell more characters I cared about."

"Eventually, my numbness turned to an anger I’ve never felt about a video game. "

End quoting.

If there's a lesson from this game, despite all other good theories and explanations about everything that went on, I think this game represents a media product of a heartless generation. A story like that would never be produced 30 years ago. I think my parents and grand parents would throw up watching this game (my grandmother probably would call the pastor to bless the house). This game doesn't look like survival horror entertainment, doesn't look like any entertainment at all.

If I had to choose one word to describe this game is "ugly".

I'm not saying it's a 0/0 game at all. This post is still not my full thoughts on the game.

You didn't get my point. I said that it can get some kind of rating exactly because it's not opinion.

Story pacing for example is truly technical. A good story can be ruined by bad pacing. Stories also can be inherently bad by false tautologies, nonsense assumptions, characters out of place or portraying behaviours that don't make sense and the list goes on. Books are mostly all rated in those terms and some books do have bad stories and get universally low rates from multiple sources.

But we can agree to disagree.

Anyone tried permadeath already?

I’m still on my 4th run of the game and want to try it but don’t have too much time lately.
I heard some people already got the trophy for permadeath while I Still haven’t got the platinum (yeah I suck for trophies)