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I know I shouldn't be surprised but Animal Crossing's power is something else.



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curl-6 said:
RolStoppable said:

curl, sales falling is an implicit suggestion because by week 12 Switch is up ~960k year over year. At some point you must expect sales to decrease drastically, otherwise you won't get below 2019's YTD performance.

Wuhan was the epicenter of corona and is already in the process of returning back to normal after a good two months. That's going to be a step by step procedure, so it's going to take a few months until really everything is like it used to be. If only your optimism wasn't restricted solely to PS sales... more balance in distribution would make your outlook less depressing for yourself.

China is getting things back on track, this is true, and it will help resolve Switch's supply issues at least, but China was only able to contain COVID-19 (for now) through extreme measures that the West don't seem willing to implement.

There's no way places like America or Europe are gonna have COVID-19 beaten as soon as two months from now. By the latter months of the year we may have reached the point where the current restrictions can be eased, but it still won't be completely back to business as usual until we achieve mass vaccination and herd immunity, and that's extremely unlikely to be possible within 2020.

Plus last year we had the gigaton bombshell of Switch's first mainline Pokemon game to supercharge the holiday quarter; there's no word yet on whether Switch will have any killer app tier games in the second half of 2020. That's not to say there won't be, there very well might, but it's all up in the air at the moment.

Nobody will beat COVID-19 this year, that has been said often enough. The virus is expected to be around for a few years at least. Regardless, life has to return to normal because otherwise the economical damage will do more harm to the peoples of the world than the virus itself. Hence why China is doing what it's doing because the economical threat is bigger than the still present virus.



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RolStoppable said:
curl-6 said:

China is getting things back on track, this is true, and it will help resolve Switch's supply issues at least, but China was only able to contain COVID-19 (for now) through extreme measures that the West don't seem willing to implement.

There's no way places like America or Europe are gonna have COVID-19 beaten as soon as two months from now. By the latter months of the year we may have reached the point where the current restrictions can be eased, but it still won't be completely back to business as usual until we achieve mass vaccination and herd immunity, and that's extremely unlikely to be possible within 2020.

Plus last year we had the gigaton bombshell of Switch's first mainline Pokemon game to supercharge the holiday quarter; there's no word yet on whether Switch will have any killer app tier games in the second half of 2020. That's not to say there won't be, there very well might, but it's all up in the air at the moment.

Nobody will beat COVID-19 this year, that has been said often enough. The virus is expected to be around for a few years at least. Regardless, life has to return to normal because otherwise the economical damage will do more harm to the peoples of the world than the virus itself. Hence why China is doing what it's doing because the economical threat is bigger than the still present virus.

China has managed to largely contain the outbreak through extreme measures; it really remains to be seen if the West can do the same, and if they can't, lifting the restrictions put in place to slow the virus will be sending millions to their death.



Bet with Liquidlaser: I say PS5 and Xbox Series will sell more than 56 million combined by the end of 2023.

Impressive! How many switches were sold for the quarter?



KingofTrolls said:
Impressive! How many switches were sold for the quarter?

VGChartz says 4 million YTD, with one more full week left for the quarter.



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curl-6 said:
RolStoppable said:

Nobody will beat COVID-19 this year, that has been said often enough. The virus is expected to be around for a few years at least. Regardless, life has to return to normal because otherwise the economical damage will do more harm to the peoples of the world than the virus itself. Hence why China is doing what it's doing because the economical threat is bigger than the still present virus.

China has managed to largely contain the outbreak through extreme measures; it really remains to be seen if the West can do the same, and if they can't, lifting the restrictions put in place to slow the virus will be sending millions to their death.

The UK is reporting that the restrictions have led to an increase in overall video game sales lately. I think that's what this discussion was initially about, your fear that the restrictions will lead to a decrease in video game purchases.

The only thing that you actually have to worry about in regards to Switch sales is that Nintendo's supply chain can deal with the increased demand. The UK is also reporting that Switch consoles have been getting scarce.



Legend11 correctly predicted that GTA IV (360+PS3) would outsell SSBB. I was wrong.

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RolStoppable said:
curl-6 said:

China has managed to largely contain the outbreak through extreme measures; it really remains to be seen if the West can do the same, and if they can't, lifting the restrictions put in place to slow the virus will be sending millions to their death.

The UK is reporting that the restrictions have led to an increase in overall video game sales lately. I think that's what this discussion was initially about, your fear that the restrictions will lead to a decrease in video game purchases.

The only thing that you actually have to worry about in regards to Switch sales is that Nintendo's supply chain can deal with the increased demand. The UK is also reporting that Switch consoles have been getting scarce.

Naturally sales have increased with the release of the gigaton that is Animal Crossing, but they've yet to prove they'll have more big system selling games in the latter half of the year.



Bet with Liquidlaser: I say PS5 and Xbox Series will sell more than 56 million combined by the end of 2023.

curl-6 said:
RolStoppable said:

The UK is reporting that the restrictions have led to an increase in overall video game sales lately. I think that's what this discussion was initially about, your fear that the restrictions will lead to a decrease in video game purchases.

The only thing that you actually have to worry about in regards to Switch sales is that Nintendo's supply chain can deal with the increased demand. The UK is also reporting that Switch consoles have been getting scarce.

Naturally sales have increased with the release of the gigaton that is Animal Crossing, but they've yet to prove they'll have more big system selling games in the latter half of the year.

"Increase in overall video game sales" means all consoles as well as all their popular games, so those titles that have been showing good legs are selling even better lately.

In another thread I had asked you why you are so optimistic about PS4 sales and your answer was historical precedent. How come that you don't apply the same standard to Nintendo? Meaning that you should expect Nintendo to have a better lineup in the second half of the year than the first half, because that's how it has pretty much always been. But instead you insist that Nintendo has yet to prove something, despite them proving it year after year after year.



Legend11 correctly predicted that GTA IV (360+PS3) would outsell SSBB. I was wrong.

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RolStoppable said:
curl-6 said:

Naturally sales have increased with the release of the gigaton that is Animal Crossing, but they've yet to prove they'll have more big system selling games in the latter half of the year.

"Increase in overall video game sales" means all consoles as well as all their popular games, so those titles that have been showing good legs are selling even better lately.

In another thread I had asked you why you are so optimistic about PS4 sales and your answer was historical precedent. How come that you don't apply the same standard to Nintendo? Meaning that you should expect Nintendo to have a better lineup in the second half of the year than the first half, because that's how it has pretty much always been. But instead you insist that Nintendo has yet to prove something, despite them proving it year after year after year.

The current global circumstances don't really have a historical precedent for Nintendo. I do think it's most likely their second half will be stronger than the first as is usually the case, but can they still deliver in the middle of a pandemic, which could slow software development?



Bet with Liquidlaser: I say PS5 and Xbox Series will sell more than 56 million combined by the end of 2023.

curl-6 said:

The current global circumstances don't really have a historical precedent for Nintendo. I do think it's most likely their second half will be stronger than the first as is usually the case, but can they still deliver in the middle of a pandemic, which could slow software development?

Japan hasn't been hit hard by corona and that's where most of Nintendo's developers are located. Although there are news that the Japanese government has fudged the numbers in order to be able to host the olympic games this year, so it's a wait and see game to find out how much truth there is to such claims.

But assuming a bad scenario with a two month long halt on software development, that only pushes the games scheduled for late 2020 into next year. That may sound bad because it would affect the big holiday title, but it still keeps the initially planned July to October lineup within 2020. Sales are less of an issue than the release schedule, because Nintendo has already built a strong catalogue of evergreens on Switch.

But in any case, 2020 for Switch won't be a Wii U-like year like your hyperbole from another thread suggested.



Legend11 correctly predicted that GTA IV (360+PS3) would outsell SSBB. I was wrong.

A Biased Review Reloaded / Open Your Eyes / Switch Gamers Club