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Zoombael said:
Pemalite said:

Need to give Biden an actual chance first before you start complaining on apparant lies... Because the world gave Trump a chance despite him lying about:

That massive wall that never got built and Mexico never paid for it.
Hillary never got jailed.
Didn't repeal and replace obamacare.
Didn't deport all immigrants.
Didn't fix the debt problem. (It actually got worst.)
Didn't ditch Nato.
Didn't reinstate torture.
Trump didn't invest heavily on infrastructure to repair and modernize the US's antiquated airports, roads and rail.
Didn't bring American troops home and end the "endless wars".

And lets not start on Trumps downplaying and lying about COVID since the start of this year either... Jesus christ, what a mess.
No wonder he got booted out on his ass, deservedly so.

Where did the world give him a chance? Were you high on scorpion venom? Trump was never given a chance from before the get go. Russian collusion scheme, a solid MSM anti-Trump front, social media and the public non stop ridiculing and chastising him. See all the threads in whatever forum. What about Bidens racist remark? Nothing. But Michelle Obama brining up the Charlottesville lie, or the Proud Boys lie and you're all over it. F'ing hypocrites.

And you want to tell me he was given a chance? Are you f'ing sh'ing me? What would it have looked like if the world would not have given him a chance? Grabing him at inaugeration day and throw him into a woodchipper?

And despite all this no land slide victory for Biden. O my... and maybe even voter fraud?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uErY5RJ76Os

Did i LoL when the phone was hung up...

Trump was made president. That was his chance.
He was the most powerful man in the world, he was the man up top, he could have made the damn changes.
Absolutely no excuse for the shit job he did and the long list of failed mandates and the endless lies.

I am very right-wing/conservative when it comes to border control, most Australians are, yet he even failed on that front.

The mainstream media conspiracy is just bullshit, Murdoch empire is mainstream media and fully supported trump from the get go.


There is no evidence of voter fraud, it's going to get thrown out and laughed at.

And yes Biden should be brought up on racist commentary, Michelle Obama was never president.
The Proud Boys are just an extremist group and should be shut down entirely.



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Pemalite said:
Zoombael said:

Where did the world give him a chance? Were you high on scorpion venom? Trump was never given a chance from before the get go. Russian collusion scheme, a solid MSM anti-Trump front, social media and the public non stop ridiculing and chastising him. See all the threads in whatever forum. What about Bidens racist remark? Nothing. But Michelle Obama brining up the Charlottesville lie, or the Proud Boys lie and you're all over it. F'ing hypocrites.

And you want to tell me he was given a chance? Are you f'ing sh'ing me? What would it have looked like if the world would not have given him a chance? Grabing him at inaugeration day and throw him into a woodchipper?

And despite all this no land slide victory for Biden. O my... and maybe even voter fraud?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uErY5RJ76Os

Did i LoL when the phone was hung up...

Trump was made president. That was his chance.
He was the most powerful man in the world, he was the man up top, he could have made the damn changes.
Absolutely no excuse for the shit job he did and the long list of failed mandates and the endless lies.

I am very right-wing/conservative when it comes to border control, most Australians are, yet he even failed on that front.

The mainstream media conspiracy is just bullshit, Murdoch empire is mainstream media and fully supported trump from the get go.


There is no evidence of voter fraud, it's going to get thrown out and laughed at.

And yes Biden should be brought up on racist commentary, Michelle Obama was never president.
The Proud Boys are just an extremist group and should be shut down entirely.

Even Attorney General William Barr agree's with that.
Theres simply no evidence of voter fraud, or anywhere near to the degree that it would change the election.

AG Barr, is "trumps" guy,.... he willingly lies/bends truth, and does whatever trump wants.
Seems even he cant in good conscience, claim otherwise.

its time for trump to put on the "big boys" pants, and amit to him loseing the election.
Even the wording he choose... that was probably just to save face.

"no evidence of fraud, to a degree that it would change anything"  (paraphraseing)

If they actually found proof of any fraud, you bet your arse they would be yelling about it, and trump would be tweeting it.
The fact they cant prove anything, just shows its just Trumps ego, that cant accept he lost.

Last edited by JRPGfan - on 01 December 2020

JRPGfan said:
Pemalite said:

Trump was made president. That was his chance.
He was the most powerful man in the world, he was the man up top, he could have made the damn changes.
Absolutely no excuse for the shit job he did and the long list of failed mandates and the endless lies.

I am very right-wing/conservative when it comes to border control, most Australians are, yet he even failed on that front.

The mainstream media conspiracy is just bullshit, Murdoch empire is mainstream media and fully supported trump from the get go.


There is no evidence of voter fraud, it's going to get thrown out and laughed at.

And yes Biden should be brought up on racist commentary, Michelle Obama was never president.
The Proud Boys are just an extremist group and should be shut down entirely.

Even Attorney General William Barr agree's with that.
Theres simply no evidence of voter fraud, or anywhere near to the degree that it would change the election.

AG Barr, is "trumps" guy,.... he willingly lies/bends truth, and does whatever trump wants.
Seems even he cant in good conscience, claim otherwise.

its time for trump to put on the "big boys" pants, and amit to him loseing the election.
Even the wording he choose... that was probably just to save face.

"no evidence of fraud, to a degree that it would change anything"  (paraphraseing)

If they actually found proof of any fraud, you bet your arse they would be yelling about it, and trump would be tweeting it.
The fact they cant prove anything, just shows its just Trumps ego, that cant accept he lost.

It's frustrating because whenever something "good" happens to Trump, it's normal.
I.E. 2016 election. - Yet he still lost the popular vote.

He didn't cry about any conspiracies, wasn't in his best interest.

Fast forward to 2020, because he is the looser, he is throwing a tantrum and blaming it on everyone else and the system, rather than reflecting on the shit job he did with the long list of broken promises and mandates.

Either way, he was president for the last 4 years, he had the power to make the changes to completely remove and resolve any issues like voter fraud, but he didn't.
It's incompetence at it's best. It's shit leadership.

He would rather whinge about something than be the solution, he simply loves to complain and blame.



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Pemalite said:
JRPGfan said:

Even Attorney General William Barr agree's with that.
Theres simply no evidence of voter fraud, or anywhere near to the degree that it would change the election.

AG Barr, is "trumps" guy,.... he willingly lies/bends truth, and does whatever trump wants.
Seems even he cant in good conscience, claim otherwise.

its time for trump to put on the "big boys" pants, and amit to him loseing the election.
Even the wording he choose... that was probably just to save face.

"no evidence of fraud, to a degree that it would change anything"  (paraphraseing)

If they actually found proof of any fraud, you bet your arse they would be yelling about it, and trump would be tweeting it.
The fact they cant prove anything, just shows its just Trumps ego, that cant accept he lost.

It's frustrating because whenever something "good" happens to Trump, it's normal.
I.E. 2016 election. - Yet he still lost the popular vote.

He didn't cry about any conspiracies, wasn't in his best interest.

Fast forward to 2020, because he is the looser, he is throwing a tantrum and blaming it on everyone else and the system, rather than reflecting on the shit job he did with the long list of broken promises and mandates.

Either way, he was president for the last 4 years, he had the power to make the changes to completely remove and resolve any issues like voter fraud, but he didn't.
It's incompetence at it's best. It's shit leadership.

He would rather whinge about something than be the solution, he simply loves to complain and blame.

I actually slightly disagree with you here, but only in that Trump didn't complain about conspiracies when he won in 2016. That's not actually accurate because he still thought there was a conspiracy to let millions of undocumented immigrants vote illegally as that was the only way he could cope with him losing the popular vote even though he won the actual election. Any time Trump loses in any contest he cries cheating. 



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So we're currently in the endgame. Destruction of evidence and mass pardons.

Imagine pardons existing and still claiming to live in a democracy.



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Republicans rally to boycott the Georgia runoffs.

If they keep this up the Dems may take the Senate after all.



TallSilhouette said:

Republicans rally to boycott the Georgia runoffs.

If they keep this up the Dems may take the Senate after all.

The mistake you and the the video's creator are making is assuming these people are republicans. Trump and his flunkies are not republicans. They have no political ideology. Trump's only goal is to benefit Trump, and the only goal of people like Lin Wood is to keep him in power for as long as possible so they advantage of his position for their benefit. If holding the republican party hostage suits that goal, so be it. 

Identifying as republican was a means to an end. If Trump believed it was in his personal interest, he'd be waving rainbow flags, calling for free college, signing executive orders to ban assault rifles, etc. If he thought being a liberal was the way to power, he'd make Bernie Sanders look like Rand Paul.



JWeinCom said:

The mistake you and the the video's creator are making is assuming these people are republicans. Trump and his flunkies are not republicans. They have no political ideology. Trump's only goal is to benefit Trump, and the only goal of people like Lin Wood is to keep him in power for as long as possible so they advantage of his position for their benefit. If holding the republican party hostage suits that goal, so be it. 

Identifying as republican was a means to an end. If Trump believed it was in his personal interest, he'd be waving rainbow flags, calling for free college, signing executive orders to ban assault rifles, etc. If he thought being a liberal was the way to power, he'd make Bernie Sanders look like Rand Paul.

What better personification for the Republican party could there really be? 



sundin13 said:
JWeinCom said:

The mistake you and the the video's creator are making is assuming these people are republicans. Trump and his flunkies are not republicans. They have no political ideology. Trump's only goal is to benefit Trump, and the only goal of people like Lin Wood is to keep him in power for as long as possible so they advantage of his position for their benefit. If holding the republican party hostage suits that goal, so be it. 

Identifying as republican was a means to an end. If Trump believed it was in his personal interest, he'd be waving rainbow flags, calling for free college, signing executive orders to ban assault rifles, etc. If he thought being a liberal was the way to power, he'd make Bernie Sanders look like Rand Paul.

What better personification for the Republican party could there really be? 

I dunno... I feel that there are or at least were some republicans who genuinely thought what they were doing was best for the country.



JWeinCom said:
sundin13 said:

What better personification for the Republican party could there really be? 

I dunno... I feel that there are or at least were some republicans who genuinely thought what they were doing was best for the country.

Maybe in the past tense. Now, at least on the federal level, I have my doubts.