Don't come at me with this "petty" thing. This entire dicussion has been thoroughly petty. BraLoD was petty in his comments about the game not being released in a format everyone always knew it'd never be. Everyone else has been petty in criticizing his view on something that would be exclusively a consumer-friendly approach, just because it doesn't make sense from a corporate point of view. The whole thing is stupid. Of course Atlus will choose to release the game as a standalone $60, because they know people will buy it and they get a lot more money that way. Cool. But are you Atlus? Am I Atlus? Last time I checked, each of us is just a person, in this situation a consumer, and for the consumer it would strictly be better to pay less for what is, at its core, the same game that has already been release three years ago.

Is it worth it anyway? I'd say so, yeah. Never mind the amount of content or play time, Persona 5 is a phenomenal game. That matters more than the amount of hours, anyway. I haven't exactly bought the original game, but if I had, I wouldn't mind double dipping on Royal because this game is the shit and worth way more than $60 (which isn't to say a price higher than that would be acceptable). The right price, however, would be at a discount for those who have purchased the original. That only makes sense, it being an expanded version and not a brand new game. It's silly of BraLoD to ask for that to happen at this point in time, but it's not wrong. You're all wrong in defending Atlus for a decision that is unfriendly to the consumer, though. In fact, Atlus is a pretty shitty publisher, not unlike most publishers to begin with, but still pretty crappy.

Just wanted to put that out there because this whole discussion has been super annoying.

Of course it doesn't matter if the game is 100 or 140 hours long when it comes to how worth it it is. But I've never seen anyone take 140 hours to finish it, so it kinda bothered me that you used that number. That's probably the Royal playtime, but I'm not gonna look it up because I don't want to know. Sure, you say 100 hours is just for people playing the main story, but, like... Persona games have limited time you can use. The play time for everyone is always going to be very similar, because the idea is that you're going to be playing through the main story in a certain way. The only way your play time will be extended further than usual is either if you spend a long time grinding in Mementos, or grinding out new Personas in the Velvet Room. Neither of which is anywhere close to being interesting optional content.

You should try to see both sides,you say it yourself that it would be nice to have the option to buy it seperately and i do not really see anyone making a big deal out of it.

This product is worth more to you than it is to others and that's alright,for myself it is financially ridiculous to give full price twice for a product i played the biggest part of and you can't really tell me or others that is nonsense.

Maybe it's because of how annoying it is to argue with you and your "I'm right and this subjective thing proves it" mentality.

What do you mean I need to see both sides? You just pointed out the fact that I do see both sides, and that I admit it would be better if it had the option. And obviously it is a big deal for some people, because they keep coming back to this thread to argue about it.

You do deem your own side much more important otherwise you would have no argument,people tell you facts about the game and you have been overly defensive about any feedback like it's a personal attack.

Like the post you made above this one,you tell us you exaggerated the hours that the game can be completed but people can not correct you on it.

Looks like it's either a big deal for you or you misinterpreted peoples intentions wrongly.

I love Persona 5, but I'm definitely not paying them another $60 on it.

Yes so if I bought all that DLC and still have to rebuy it for $60 to get to play with the new char and changes it makes it even more expensive.

If you think its ok to accept companies to not care about people that support them its fine, I definitely think its not.

What is the irony with me holding a black label of The Legend of Dragoon? I paid the same on it as I paid on Persona 5, a single retail price. What's your point?

Again it isn't just "some extra content". Also you aren't asking for DLC - you want free DLC.

You want them to release a $60 game as free DLC.

Don't come at me with this "petty" thing. This entire dicussion has been thoroughly petty. BraLoD was petty in his comments about the game not being released in a format everyone always knew it'd never be. Everyone else has been petty in criticizing his view on something that would be exclusively a consumer-friendly approach, just because it doesn't make sense from a corporate point of view. The whole thing is stupid. Of course Atlus will choose to release the game as a standalone $60, because they know people will buy it and they get a lot more money that way. Cool. But are you Atlus? Am I Atlus? Last time I checked, each of us is just a person, in this situation a consumer, and for the consumer it would strictly be better to pay less for what is, at its core, the same game that has already been release three years ago.

Is it worth it anyway? I'd say so, yeah. Never mind the amount of content or play time, Persona 5 is a phenomenal game. That matters more than the amount of hours, anyway. I haven't exactly bought the original game, but if I had, I wouldn't mind double dipping on Royal because this game is the shit and worth way more than $60 (which isn't to say a price higher than that would be acceptable). The right price, however, would be at a discount for those who have purchased the original. That only makes sense, it being an expanded version and not a brand new game. It's silly of BraLoD to ask for that to happen at this point in time, but it's not wrong. You're all wrong in defending Atlus for a decision that is unfriendly to the consumer, though. In fact, Atlus is a pretty shitty publisher, not unlike most publishers to begin with, but still pretty crappy.

Just wanted to put that out there because this whole discussion has been super annoying.

Of course it doesn't matter if the game is 100 or 140 hours long when it comes to how worth it it is. But I've never seen anyone take 140 hours to finish it, so it kinda bothered me that you used that number. That's probably the Royal playtime, but I'm not gonna look it up because I don't want to know. Sure, you say 100 hours is just for people playing the main story, but, like... Persona games have limited time you can use. The play time for everyone is always going to be very similar, because the idea is that you're going to be playing through the main story in a certain way. The only way your play time will be extended further than usual is either if you spend a long time grinding in Mementos, or grinding out new Personas in the Velvet Room. Neither of which is anywhere close to being interesting optional content.

I said I have it on PS4 because you said it would likely not work on PS3.

They have already changed the codes of the original game to update it to Royal, its not a Remake, so the changes they made there should definitely be possible on my file too.

The file size growth has a lot to do with new textures very likely, so I don't see a problem either.

If their profit is the only reason then I don't think its ok.

They are reselling a game from 2016, if people that don't own it want to pay $60 to get it all together its fine, but for us that already did back then its not.

I understand people could go and buy the game for $25 and the DLC for $25 too (as an example) and get Royal for $50 instead of $60, but that is just something that shows their $60 asking price is not justifyable.

I definitely won't buy Royal in the near future if that's my only option, and if you think that's ok, cool, but I think its not.

If someone that supported them from day 1 can get just shooed around if he doesn't think paying $120 on their game is ok (that's what is happening here), then I might just start waiting for their best edition instead of supporting them right away. Lets see if they can do a Royal edition without people buying their base edition before it.

We are not talking about a Remake here. I have that whole game on the same platform their are releasing this "Complete" edition.

Persona 5 Royal is $60 right now. It won't always be that price. It will discount. Let me quote you - to you.

"Will we get Royal as a new game+ DLC for Persona 5 owners someday?"

Some day. Persona 5 Royal will be discounted some day. Persona 5 royal will probably be $20 some day.

So how is Persona 5 Royal being discounted "some day" any different than Atlus releasing Persona 5 Royal as dlc "some day".

But I'm starting to see this as a waste of time. You are lacking logic, reason, common sense, and the ability to communicate well. Plus you are ignoring everyone that is telling you this isn't just "some content".