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Kai_Mao said:
Pinkie_pie said:

Point is i asked you weather or not you agree with hoang that ps4 would only sell 15k for ff7 launch week you werent sure so clearly underestimated ps4 and that you didnt think ps4 could reach 10 million. It is looking very likely that it will reach 10 million now

Not being sure doesn't mean I was right or wrong. Not sure what you were trying to prove to me.

Its great that FFVII Remake moved hardware. Good for Sony and the PS4. Could TLoUII do it again? I don't know. Its a new gaming environment compared to last gen. The Switch is the more dominant console now, even with severe shortages affecting sales for two weeks in a row. Animal Crossing continues to sell like hotcakes even after FFVII Remake released. This year is not what we all expected, figuratively and literally. With the PS5 looming, who knows how long the PS4 can sell.

If the PS4 manages to reach 10 million, congrats to it. It finally manages to do what the Switch just did in a shorter time frame and without the need of a fad like the Wii had, even with all the hype and the third party support the Switch could ever dream of. We will eventually find out either by the end of the year or sometime next year, once the PS5 eventually becomes the focus.

 Tlou2 can boost ps4 or not wasnt the main point. My posts were weather ps4 can sell 10 million or not and i said it only needed to average 10k for the next 2 years to reach that.  Many if not all thought it wont average 10k therefore it wont reach 10 million and it seemed like you agreed with them. I want to see console do well in japan but for some reason many of you dont wanna believe ps4 can reach 10 million when it wasnt hard to see why it can achieve it. 



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Pinkie_pie said:
HoangNhatAnh said:

Not so sure about these things.

MasonADC said:

The only way ps4 sells 50k units ever again is with a price cut or some sort of promotion. Also, I think you might be overestimating TLOU a bit much 

Bofferbrauer2 said:

Problem is, PS4 needs already a promotion to get above 10k now. Even a 10k Yen pricecut combined with FF7R and GoT won't keep those sales up for long anymore.

Kai_Mao said:

You think The Last of Us Part II, as great of a game its anticipated to be, can create enough movement in Japan to boost PS4 sales above 15K?

Although the first game did relatively well with how it was in Japan, its a completely different climate now. Animal Crossing is dominating COMG charts by a mile compared to even FF7 Remake, which was arguably the most anticipated game ever according to Famitsu readers. The Switch is THE gaming platform in Japan outside of mobile (and maybe PC).

Marth said:

You need one hell of a boost if you want to push a 100 week average from 7k to 10k.

Marth said:

Just so we're clear you need like 4x 100k weeks to boost that average so high, numbers that the PS4 won't reach anymore

Or like 25 weeks of 20k, which will already be insanely hard to reach especially that amount.

Kai_Mao said:

I neither agree nor disagree. I'm just stating that TLoU part II, a Western-focused game, may not have it easy with the current state of gaming in Japan. What makes you think it could boost it above 15K, or even reach 50K according to what you are predicting?

Farsala said:

Yep, imo, there is no chance the PS4 gets a price cut now and thus PS4's higher sales predictions are fairly delusional.

Farsala said:

The PS4 is struggling to have decent legs at its current price point, and soon the PS3 will overtake it launch aligned. In addition, the PS4 will have its legs cut when the PS5 releases much like the PS3 did. Generally the January- March period is important for PS sales and it is already down 240k YoY. A price promotion in Feb/ March plus FF7 would have been great, but FF7 was delayed.

How wrong were all of you? Ps4 wont ever sell 50k in a week? Its impossible to reach 10 million? 

imma be honest i never saw this until now but the ps4 sold a lot that week cause it had a promotion like i said lol. And it is impossible to reach 10 million 



MasonADC said:

imma be honest i never saw this until now but the ps4 sold a lot that week cause it had a promotion like i said lol. And it is impossible to reach 10 million 

How things change in a matter of months. We are now five months after Pinkie_pie's "told ya" post and now 9.5m lifetime seems like an uphill battle, let alone the originally discussed 10.0m.



Legend11 correctly predicted that GTA IV (360+PS3) would outsell SSBB. I was wrong.

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Ok it might be impossible now but let's be honest we all didn't expect they were gonna kill off the PS4 this early. PS4 isn't selling because there's just no stock



Pinkie_pie said:
Ok it might be impossible now but let's be honest we all didn't expect they were gonna kill off the PS4 this early. PS4 isn't selling because there's just no stock

When there was still stock, the PS4 couldn't pull off 10k a week after Final Fantasy VII Remake. So even if there had been sufficient stock throughout the whole summer until now, a 10k per week average wasn't realistic.



Legend11 correctly predicted that GTA IV (360+PS3) would outsell SSBB. I was wrong.

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Pinkie_pie said:
Ok it might be impossible now but let's be honest we all didn't expect they were gonna kill off the PS4 this early. PS4 isn't selling because there's just no stock

It's the other way around, bud. It's really not that hard to understand



 

 

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Pinkie_pie said:
Ok it might be impossible now but let's be honest we all didn't expect they were gonna kill off the PS4 this early. PS4 isn't selling because there's just no stock

Not really...

I predicted less than 10m because I DID expect Sony to kill off the PS4 early. Their strategy has been transparent for 2 years+ now.



Pinkie_pie said:
Ok it might be impossible now but let's be honest we all didn't expect they were gonna kill off the PS4 this early. PS4 isn't selling because there's just no stock

They give stock in US and EU because there is still quite a demand. In Japan the demand is running low so they dont bother giving stock. 



Pocky Lover Boy! 

This thread definitely was an entertaining read.  Of course there was this:

Pinkie_pie said:
Signalstar said:
I don't think PS4 will reach 10 million in Japan at this rate.

It only needs to average 10k per week for the next 2 years to reach 10 million. With ff7 remake, ghost of tsushima and price cut it will easily

But on top of that there was also this:

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Kai_Mao said:

Except the Switch is selling really well at its launch price of $300, which is basically a home console price at this point. Before production slowed down this year due to the COVID-19, the OG Switch was selling more than Switch Lite, $100 cheaper than the OG Switch.

The 3DS needed a drastic price cut months after its release.

The Switch has more room to gain more consumers. Not to mention the games it has like Brain Age and Animal Crossing New Horizons gaining new consumers from new and different demographics to the Switch. What other franchise can attract the female audience, especially in Japan, like Animal Crossing?

There is nothing like home console price point. Price is dependent on tech.

It's still up in the air if SW with a price cut can catch up to 3DS. It's 2.9 million behind. 

Brain Age has massively collapsed. AC is definitely a key title. 

Gap is currently less than a million. 
https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9214465

I can't believe this thread is only six months old with no holiday period in between or anything.  Funny how quickly things can change.

Last edited by The_Liquid_Laser - on 21 September 2020