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Thoughts?

No Sony, No E3. 16 17.20%
 
No Sony, yes E3. 30 32.26%
 
E3 is dead. 14 15.05%
 
E3 doesn't need it. 13 13.98%
 
E3 sucks anyway. 2 2.15%
 
PSX please! 8 8.60%
 
State of Play is the superior format. 2 2.15%
 
PS5 cancelled confirmed. 4 4.30%
 
But LoD will be there, right? 2 2.15%
 
Don't have an opinion, but love polls. 2 2.15%
 
Total:93
ClassicGamingWizzz said:
LudicrousSpeed said:

Another sensitive one here it seems 😬

Sorry that discussing E3 and games offended you. Heil Sony. Long live Druckman. In Kojimas name we pray, amen. 

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Dude you are hilarious, just the other day you Said i jerk off to kojima , when i asked you Proof ... Crickets lol

Now its druckman too? Next week Will BE cory barlog xD.

Even If i was a massive Fanboy of these , they are creatives of the industry and they make amazing games . Better jerk off to them than corporation heads that the ONLY shit they do is PR and talk What the Fanboys want to listen. A guy that calls phill Spenser "papa" trying to Paint others as Fanboys of industry people lol

And you Said you always try  to Stay away from Sony threads in a reply to donferrari ? Dude you are in vgchartz since Forever , since the j.allard profile you had, i dont know who you trying to fool Here. 

But hey, Carry on ,you do you🤷

That was just general Sony worship, it wasn’t meant for you in particular or to take personally but 🤷🏻‍♂️

Also you’re exactly right I’ve been here for like 7 years, there are plenty of threads you can see me not in. Hope that helps.



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for any argumentation about "E3 is bad for indies", the only thing I've got to say is that nobody gives a damm about indies. My opinion of course.

Aside from a few nerds, I don't see anyone that would queue for an indie event of sorts.

E3 is for the million sellers and there's no problem with that in my opinion.



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The_Liquid_Laser said:
Barkley said:

Why? Why should a video in early June gather more attention among the deluge of other gaming news then it would at any other time?

I really don't see why a reveal at the same time as E3 would give it any more attention than a reveal at another time. If anything at other times it'd get more exposure because every gaming site isn't putting out 50 articles a day with all the information released all at the same time.

Be among the hundreds of announcements, or have the only announcements... ?

The PS4 was revealed in February 2013, do you really think that event didn't get enough exposure? E3 isn't needed to get everybody talking about your product.

Nintendo had three major directs last year.  Youtube views from the Nintendo of America videos looks like this:

Feb 13, 2019 Direct  2.7m views
E3 2019 Direct   3.6m views
Sept 4 2019 Direct 2.4m views

They are all of comparable length and content, but the E3 video has about 1m more views and this is North America alone.  There is also an identical Gamespot E3 trailer with 700k views that shows the same thing.  Nintendo got a lot more attention just by releasing their video at E3.  It may not make sense to you, but those are the facts.

E3 gets more eyeballs simply because it is the gaming event of the year.  Even when it's just a prepared video it still gets more attention.

Nintendo's E3 direct having more views than the other directs for the year isn't proof that releasing a video june = more views. The E3 direct has the most views because it is their biggest of the year and expected to be such.

In fact it's remarkable that their other directs are so close to their biggest yearly presentation. If anything I'd take this evidence to show the exact opposite of what you're trying to prove. Their smaller less ambitious directs aren't miles behind their e3 views.

If they hyped a direct as the biggest of the year (as is expected of their e3 direct) rather than just one of several directs I have no doubt they could achieve equal views to their e3 direct at a different time of year in lieu of E3.

The E3 direct had more views due to the actual announcements and public expectations not due to the time it was released. A June release isn't necessary for either high expectations/anticipation nor exciting announcements, it just requires actual hype building which they don't do for their usual directs.

Releasing a video at E3 may be an easy way to cultivate high expectations and a level of importance and thus views, but it is not the only way and it is not necessary.

There is no reason an event outside of E3 HAS to have less views, it depends entirely on how the event is managed and publicised.

But an example of an event outside e3 getting more views...

PS4 Reveal Event (2.8m views) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiNGZMx2vhY

PlayStation e3 2013 (2.4m Views) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmoZAPDV3ew

Though just like your example, this isn't proof of anything.



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DonFerrari said:
Jranation said:

Over a million people would watch Sony conference at e3. Why would they not do one? If they want to save money they can do a direct like nintendo. Maybe they can even have no showfloor and just do a direct. 

They can make a conference, direct, stream or anything in the same day as E3, a week before or after or whenever they like and that would still get the viewership.

We still haven't heard from Sony what are their plans besides "participating in hundreds of other events". Being this the year they release PS5 I doubt they won't do something big to show off.

I guess the more conference/event/direct they do the better. And I guess the money is not the issue here. 



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V-r0cK said:
Jranation said:

But Nintendo still have floor at e3. They also do competitions before e3 too like Splatoon, Smash, and super mario maker. 

I understand but it's really just about the conference, that's the real meat of E3.  Since Nintendo's been doing Direct for their own E3 it never really felt that Nintendo was there even if they have the floor, it just felt like fillers instead.

Wow! Cant believe you just said that. 



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Barkley said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:

Nintendo had three major directs last year.  Youtube views from the Nintendo of America videos looks like this:

Feb 13, 2019 Direct  2.7m views
E3 2019 Direct   3.6m views
Sept 4 2019 Direct 2.4m views

They are all of comparable length and content, but the E3 video has about 1m more views and this is North America alone.  There is also an identical Gamespot E3 trailer with 700k views that shows the same thing.  Nintendo got a lot more attention just by releasing their video at E3.  It may not make sense to you, but those are the facts.

E3 gets more eyeballs simply because it is the gaming event of the year.  Even when it's just a prepared video it still gets more attention.

Nintendo's E3 direct having more views than the other directs for the year isn't proof that releasing a video june = more views. The E3 direct has the most views because it is their biggest of the year and expected to be such.

In fact it's remarkable that their other directs are so close to their biggest yearly presentation. If anything I'd take this evidence to show the exact opposite of what you're trying to prove. Their smaller less ambitious directs aren't miles behind their e3 views.

If they hyped a direct as the biggest of the year (as is expected of their e3 direct) rather than just one of several directs I have no doubt they could achieve equal views to their e3 direct at a different time of year in lieu of E3.

The E3 direct had more views due to the actual announcements and public expectations not due to the time it was released. A June release isn't necessary for either high expectations/anticipation nor exciting announcements, it just requires actual hype building which they don't do for their usual directs.

Releasing a video at E3 may be an easy way to cultivate high expectations and a level of importance and thus views, but it is not the only way and it is not necessary.

There is no reason an event outside of E3 HAS to have less views, it depends entirely on how the event is managed and publicised.

But an example of an event outside e3 getting more views...

PS4 Reveal Event (2.8m views) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiNGZMx2vhY

PlayStation e3 2013 (2.4m Views) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmoZAPDV3ew

Though just like your example, this isn't proof of anything.

The best example is the PS4 reveal trailer that they released right after the reveal event in Feb.

It went viral for about a week or so after the event.  Like I have been saying, this is the internet age.  It doesn't take long for info to spread, regardless of where and when it is released.



Jranation said:
V-r0cK said:

I understand but it's really just about the conference, that's the real meat of E3.  Since Nintendo's been doing Direct for their own E3 it never really felt that Nintendo was there even if they have the floor, it just felt like fillers instead.

Wow! Cant believe you just said that. 

Believe it :P  



NightlyPoe said:
Hiku said:


https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2019-03-08-ea-will-skip-e3-press-conference-this-year

What they're referring to is this event at E3's venues.

Instead in 2019 they only had their own pre-E3 fan event in Hollywood, 3 days before E3 opened its doors.
That they didn't have a press conference at E3 and pay to use their venues is a break from tradition.

The press conference you pictured took place at The Hollywood Palladium during the EA Play 2018 event 3 days before E3 opened its doors.

It's the same location as they used in the 2019 video I showed.  Neither of them took place during E3 or used E3 venues.  The only difference is a change in formats from a traditional press conference to the more casual gameplay-focused presentation they ran last year.  And I can't think of any reason to believe that Electronic Arts changed the format of their own show because of a disagreement with E3.

Again, EA hasn't participated at E3 since 2015.  They've been running their own show and piggybacking off the E3 hype for almost half a decade.  Nothing new happened last year as far as EA's relationship with E3 goes.

Ah I see. I was under the impression they switched to an E3 stage for the press conference last year.
Though that means the statement in OP's article about EA also being in disagreement with ESA probably isn't speculation based on EA suddenly also pulling their conference from E3. In that case I guess it's more likely something they've heard from people working there, so that's interesting. But I wonder if we'll be able to see any signs of EA potentially distancing themselves from the event further, since they're already barely present as it is.

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Jranation said:
DonFerrari said:

They can make a conference, direct, stream or anything in the same day as E3, a week before or after or whenever they like and that would still get the viewership.

We still haven't heard from Sony what are their plans besides "participating in hundreds of other events". Being this the year they release PS5 I doubt they won't do something big to show off.

I guess the more conference/event/direct they do the better. And I guess the money is not the issue here. 

Totally agree, a billionaire company and a successful product like PS won't really be affected financially for dropping some millions on an E3 presentation (perhaps the gain compared to do a similar event that would cost a lot less is negligible but not a real problem).

So yes I would prefer they were in E3 and for me Sony not being there will make E3 not much relevant for me, will just look afterwards for trailers of couple publishers/devs I have interest but won't be in a hurry or hype. And that is almost a crime considering it is the E3 pre new gen.



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