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Barozi on 21 September 2020
KiigelHeart said:
All heavy Bethesda hitters should be exclusive for at least a year.

Agreed. If everything is exclusive for at least 6 months (should be enough IMO) to Xbox and PC AND is included day one in Game Pass, who in their right mind would buy it for $60 (or $70) on PS5 then?



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derpysquirtle64 on 21 September 2020
crissindahouse said:

Top tier exclusives is what makes Sony and Nintendo so successful. No idea how this wouldn't make sense from an economical point of view. Especially because all these games are huge PC games as well. Games from the Elder Scrolls series or Fallout will be profitable on PC alone if they are good. 

MS needs some more big AAA exclusives and these games could draw many people to Xbox consoles and even Gamepass would profit from not releasing these games on PS or at least only later. 

Sony pays money to get some huge games away from Xbox but for MS it wouldn't even make sense to release games from own studios only on Xbox and PC... MS could be the company selling 100m consoles if they would offer stuff like that only on Xbox.  It would completely change the mind of tens of millions of gamers and what they think about Xbox and their games. 

I don't have data for that but I suppose that Sony is losing money on their exclusives despite them selling in 8 digits number of copies or very close to that. That's the reason why Horizon came to PC after all. To cover the losses. That's what I mean by economical point of view. Of course, I would prefer MS to make all these games exclusive but knowing them, I guess they have a different opinion on this one.



 

crissindahouse on 21 September 2020
derpysquirtle64 said:
crissindahouse said:

Top tier exclusives is what makes Sony and Nintendo so successful. No idea how this wouldn't make sense from an economical point of view. Especially because all these games are huge PC games as well. Games from the Elder Scrolls series or Fallout will be profitable on PC alone if they are good. 

MS needs some more big AAA exclusives and these games could draw many people to Xbox consoles and even Gamepass would profit from not releasing these games on PS or at least only later. 

Sony pays money to get some huge games away from Xbox but for MS it wouldn't even make sense to release games from own studios only on Xbox and PC... MS could be the company selling 100m consoles if they would offer stuff like that only on Xbox.  It would completely change the mind of tens of millions of gamers and what they think about Xbox and their games. 

I don't have data for that but I suppose that Sony is losing money on their exclusives despite them selling in 8 digits number of copies or very close to that. That's the reason why Horizon came to PC after all. To cover the losses. That's what I mean by economical point of view. Of course, I would prefer MS to make all these games exclusive but knowing them, I guess they have a different opinion on this one.

But if you increase your console sales with a much better games library, you also increase the sales of your other exclusives, third party games, accessories, subscriptions and so on... it's not only about if games like The Elder Scrolls will make more money on their own if they also release on PS but about how the whole Xbox ecosystem will grow from that. 

If some million PS owners will switch to Xbox or at least buy an Xbox as well, they won't just buy The Elder Scrolls and nothing else. They might try out Halo, they might buy some more controllers or get the potentially better multiplat version on Xbox...



jason1637 on 21 September 2020

My local gamestop is only having 10 xboxs and its a mall store. Better of trying my luck against the bots online.



Spade on 21 September 2020

Wonder if we'll be getting anymore big surprises... I don't know if we need another conference. I just think they need to send out a list of launch games. Their marketing hasn't been great so far.



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jason1637 on 21 September 2020
Spade said:
Wonder if we'll be getting anymore big surprises... I don't know if we need another conference. I just think they need to send out a list of launch games. Their marketing hasn't been great so far.

Hopefully gameplay or new game announcements. Microsoft should have XO20 the Friday before the Series S,X launches.



Spade on 21 September 2020

Man that thread exemplifies the 5 stages of grief. Fucking rollercoaster.



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Barozi on 21 September 2020

btw. Microsoft should now have enough characters to make a Smash-style brawler or kart racer lol.
Doom Guy (Doom duh), Vault Boy (Fallout), Dovahkiin (Elder Scrolls), Emily Kaldwin / Corvo Attano (Dishonored), B J Blazkowicz (Wolfenstein), Sebastian Castellanos (The Evil Within)



derpysquirtle64 on 21 September 2020

Hopefully, we’ll get something at TGS, but I don’t think so



 

WoodenPints on 21 September 2020

I wonder what the exact terms on the Deathloop and Ghostwire deals are since they are both launching on PC alongside the PS5 we could see them releasing into Gamepass for PC/xCloud day one if there was no specific agreement to stop it appearing across any Xbox platform or if it was just for console exclusivity.