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One thing I wanna say about Indiana Jones is that I hope that it’s 3rd person but if it is then MachineGames and MS/Todd Howard better hope that it’s phenomenal in all parts because you damn well know that it will be compared non stop with Uncharted.



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EspadaGrim said:

Speshal_Nick has confirmed that MachineGames Indiana Jones will be Xbox console exclusive. https://mobile.twitter.com/Shpeshal_Nick/status/1436895172508336134

As it should be. If Disney is letting Sony and Nintendo use major IPs and have them exclusive it's only fair MS gets a piece of the pie.



Ryuu96 said:

Looks like Deathloop is another GOTY contender!

I'm very surprised, I think I've been soured on the game from the repeated and overly long trailers that bored me to death.



MS must be really kicking themselves for the timing of that deal now. Other than Forza series and Ori this is their biggest critical hit since Gears 3 in 2011 and they can't put it on Xbox for 6-12 months.

Though I guarantee when it does come to xbox it will be an "expanded" version. They'll want to make up for it.

Edit: Now it's up to 90 with 50 reviews.



Ryuu96 said:
Zippy6 said:

MS must be really kicking themselves for the timing of that deal now. Other than Forza series and Ori this is their biggest critical hit since Gears 3 in 2011 and they can't put it on Xbox for 6-12 months.

Though I guarantee when it does come to xbox it will be an "expanded" version. They'll want to make up for it.

Edit: Now it's up to 90 with 50 reviews.

Might as well say the Horizon series, Lol. Tbf there is also Flight Simulator and Psychonauts 2 but it does suck that Xbox players will have to wait a year (the exclusivity is confirmed a year).

Oh yeah, the Microsoft Game Studios page on Metacritic must be missing a couple of games. Forgot about Psychonauts 2.



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Ryuu96 said:

Looks like Deathloop is another GOTY contender!

Damn maybe Angelus is right Arkane don't miss. 



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shikamaru317 said:

On that subject, I will always be of the opinion that timed hat deals are worse than acquisitions are. Acquisitions are paying to improve your own platform, timed hat deals are paying to hurt your competition, big difference between the two imo. For me at least, I would actually prefer Sony buying studios that develop games I like, over Sony timed hatting those very same games like they have been. Sony buying a studio I like makes me want to own a Playstation more, as it shows that Sony actually cares about improving themselves. Timed hats just piss me off, they make me want to wait for the game to come to other platforms just to spite Sony.

But, since Sony is bound and determined to stay on this timed moneyhat path they are on, I do think it is high time that Phil starts to fight fire with fire. Phil attempted to call a truce on timed hats after Rise of the Tomb Raider, but Sony grabbed that olive branch out of Phil's hands, dropped it, stomped on it, and then pissed on it, starting with FF7R, then Deathloop, Ghostwire Tokyo, Forspoken/Project Athia, and now even going as far as to really kick Xbox fans in the groin with KOTOR. If Sony is going to pay money just to hurt Xbox and Xbox fans, Phil should respond in kind and make Sony hurt, because MS has a whole lot more money to hat with than Sony does. It will be a hard lessen learned for Jim Ryan, but it's the only way to get him to realize they can't compete with MS in matters of the wallet. It'll be worth it to have a single hellish generation filled with hats from both camps, if it means an actual truce on timed hats next gen, and both parties instead focusing on improving themselves over hurting one another. My two cents anyway, I don't expect many of y'all to agree with me. 

Naw, MS needs to stay the course and spend all their resources on growing GP, getting games day one release and getting them on the service.  Timed deals really do not benefit the system that is behind and right now Sony has a clear marketshare advantage where these deals are not as expensive.  Timed deals just do not work unless you are the market leader because gamers in general are more than happy to wait it out if they have enough games to play.  Sony has enough games, they have the studios, MS isn't going to dent Sony this Gen with time hats but instead if they get those very same games on GP well that is something totally different.  Phil did not call any truce on time hats, he just realize that its a waste of money.  It did not net any real console sells and it did absolutely nothing to dent Sony lead.  Instead Phil realized that value for money increase sales and that is where GP comes into play.  Why spend millions of dollars for a year exclusive that gets you basically nothing when you get that that game day one on GP and increase the value of the service and your eco system.

Sony and MS are on 2 different course.  MS is going for the billion of devices that play games, Sony is looking to keep their dominance in the console space.  The 2 companies are on totally different trajectories and MS is not concerned about money hat deals.  There is just to many games that will come out in the next 5 years that in the bigger scheme of things, who cares about timed exclusives.  Instead MS need to focus on rebuilding their eco system, focus on growing GP and getting games on the system day one release.  From their own first party studios to 3rd party AAA.  If MS can do that, their future path is much brighter and stronger.



Deathloop always looked like it was going to be a great game to me and Arkane hasn't given any reason to doubt them so I never understood the criticism. I think it has something to do with Arkane being owned by MS now so it is in a weird spot with PS fans and some Xbox fans.



Forza Horizon 5 will be the highest rated game coming out this year and will still not win GOTY.

Luckily I think that we will still be represented with Psychonauts and Deathloop. I can see them nominating R&C but if they nominate Returnal then there is clear bias there.

Hope that Halo Infinite’s campaign will do similar scores (high 80’s I don’t believe that it can achieve 90+).



shikamaru317 said:
EspadaGrim said:

Forza Horizon 5 will be the highest rated game coming out this year and will still not win GOTY.

Luckily I think that we will still be represented with Psychonauts and Deathloop. I can see them nominating R&C but if they nominate Returnal then there is clear bias there.

Critics care more about good campaign than good multiplayer

Makes sense. It went to the title with the best suppression campaign last year. Half the fanbase hated it, but discussion over the game was practically banned for being too problematic/controversial. Even making mere mention of it I feel a hint of danger.

Meanwhile Hades which was universally loved didn't win. So I'll assume Death's Door-- the game I've heard the most good things about so far --probably won't win. Undertale didn't win either for that matter. Bit of a trend there.