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People are going to be salty? Bethesda is part of MS now. Bethesda would support PS more than Xbox if they would still release all the games on PS considering that some even release first on PS because of the moneyhatting.

Does that sound like something MS should do? No, obviously not. Especially with Sony buying huge games like FF away from Xbox for years. 



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Ryuu96 said:

E3 Awards 2021

  • Xbox/Bethesda Most Anticipated Game: Halo: Infinite
  • Most Anticipated Game Overall: Forza Horizon 5

https://www.ign.com/articles/e3-awards-2021

Uhm.....

Did...did nobody tell them that Forza is an Xbox game?



Ryuu96 said:

E3 Awards 2021

  • Xbox/Bethesda Most Anticipated Game: Halo: Infinite
  • Best Presentation: Xbox and Bethesda Showcase
  • Most Anticipated Game Overall: Forza Horizon 5

https://www.ign.com/articles/e3-awards-2021

How is Halo Xbox’s most anticipated game when Forza is the most anticipated game overall? Forza is an Xbox game???



shikamaru317 said:

Well, I can only speak for myself, but I intend to play it quite alot. Seems like a great way to do all of the exploration I wish I could afford to do in real life but will never be able to afford to, lol. As long as the controls are good on a controller and you can tone down the simulation stuff with assists or sliders of some kind, I don't see any reason why I won't be spending dozens, if not hundreds of hours in the game over the coming months and years. Now that military jets are being added later this year, I'm hoping to see a Helicopter expansion at some point in the future as well. 

I don't know how it controls on a controller, I use an old Logitech Extreme 3D flight stick I bought back when FSX came out. I imagine it works fine on a controller as well. You can turn damage off, pause, increase/decrease simulation rate, slew (move.orient the plane wherever you want), skip to destination, alter the weather however you see fit. There are also lots of assists for navigation and you can hand stuff off to an AI co-pilot. The AI co-pilot can essentially do the whole flight from start to finish while you look out the window. You can even leave the plane on the ground and fly around with the drone camera, no limit.

Helicopters are already available on the marketplace and as free add-ons. But I don't know if you can install free mods on the xbox version (some are free in the market place, those will work) There are also some jets (dlc) yet Asobo is still working on getting supersonic flight to work correctly. There are tons of mods, cars, hot air balloons, Tardis and other contraptions. There are a lot of free scenery enhancements as well, just not sure what you can and can't install on XBox.

jason1637 said:

What do you do in that game besides fly around? Are there like checkpoints or side quests?

You have training, landing challenges and bush missions. On the PC you have add-ons that turn it into a truck simulator style game, hauling passengers or freight to earn money and build your fleet. Or go full sim with Vatsim. But not sure if any of that will come to xbox, 3rd party add-ons.

I only use littlenavmap (navigation add-on) while exploring the world
https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/exploring-the-world-in-the-beechcraft-bonanza

Maybe I'll make it back before the XBox launch, over 6,400 airports landed at so far, eastern half of the USA left to go. Which is still a lot since over half the content is in the USA (and most of the rest in Europe). Maybe this link works, has all the content available up to date
https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?mid=1KUg5jwyT_9k2A9n5IZ99UChlhfVUfO5S&ll=34.85354500989747%2C-29.468666129410103&z=3

WoodenPints said:

I mean it's an already released game but before it released on PC the trailers and the initial reveal if I remember right were the most viewed of the Xbox E3 show with massive views.

What as actually been sacrificed? I'd imagine the Series X footage we saw will still be better quality than 99% of PC's out there playing it hah.

Turbulence and cross-wind effect on landing have been majorly turned down to make it easier. Plus more of the sim aspect has taken a backseat to graphics. Bugs with ATC, live traffic, live weather, terrain glitches have all taken a backseat to getting the xbox version working. So hopefully after the 27th the focus will shift back to the sim side and bug fixes.

Beware the footage they have show is very carefully chosen and put in the best light possible (time of day, weather) plus some after effects to make it pop.

For example this shot from the trailer


I've been there and it looked like this

They did fix the floating rock issue (edges sticking out) yet the rest is cherry picking with time and weather settings.

Not that there aren't great places in the game like


Or insane detail


But they do set expectations sky high when the reality of finding your own house is this


And outside USA / Europe quality frequently goes down to


That's mostly on Bing maps, not much Asobo can do about. Bing map coverage is pretty bad and outdated. I dated the photogrammetry data of the USA to 2014 (by looking at construction sites) which is fairly consistent across where I have been (western USA) but some places have far older data.

There is plenty eye candy, and you can (almost) go everywhere (the poles aren't included, ground/water ends at 85 degrees North/South) but don't expect to get a good experience everywhere. Most of northern Russia and China only has very crude sat data. Northern Canada, near Alert Bay

It does make the giant pixels look nice :)

Anyway there are plenty amazing looking places.



SvennoJ said:

I don't know how it controls on a controller, I use an old Logitech Extreme 3D flight stick I bought back when FSX came out. I imagine it works fine on a controller as well. You can turn damage off, pause, increase/decrease simulation rate, slew (move.orient the plane wherever you want), skip to destination, alter the weather however you see fit. There are also lots of assists for navigation and you can hand stuff off to an AI co-pilot. The AI co-pilot can essentially do the whole flight from start to finish while you look out the window. You can even leave the plane on the ground and fly around with the drone camera, no limit.......

Thanks for the detailed explanation.  It answered a bunch of questions I had about the game.  



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trunkswd said:
Ryuu96 said:

Also noticed that, Lol, Idk.

Nevertheless it is nice to see FH5 there, now if only it could get the same respect at TGA's for GOTY...

I am looking at AAA releases for this year and it is fairly light on all major platforms compared to some previous years. Forza Horizon 5 or Halo Infinite could win GotY. Horizon Forbidden West atm feels like the only real competition. 

Forza won’t win GOTY cause it’s coming in November. Halo might if it makes an October release.



Forza was the best game shown at E3, absolutely stunning. Getting that $100 version.

Xbox had the best conference overall, and it wasn't really close at all. Hope to see more game pass surprises though.



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shikamaru317 said:

I was taking a look at my Bingo Card to see if I actually got a Bingo (was so busy after the show on Sunday that I forgot to check), and I saw that I had the Xbox IP niche spinoff that Jez teased on there, and realized that wasn't announced. That got me to thinking about how many things various insiders teased for the Xbox show that didn't actually happen:

  • Xbox IP niche spinoff (teased by Jez)
  • Star Wars exclusive from Zenimax Online (teased by Matty and one other as I recall)
  • Kojima exclusive (seemingly teased by Keighley with his 6-13 fortune cookie tweet)
  • Avowed gameplay (insiders were divided on this one, some got it right by saying it wouldn't be there)
  • Hellblade 2 and Project Mara (don't remember which insiders teased this now, but I do remember seeing them teased in the final week before the conference)
  • Project Omen teased as Dishonored with Vampires, when Redfall is really more like Prey with Vampires, due to it being a shooter
  • Studio acquisitions (teased by multiple insiders in the week leading up to E3)
  • Persona on Xbox (while the Xbox Era podcast guys didn't specifically tease this for E3, it has now been 3 months since they claimed Persona was coming to Xbox, and yet Sega showed up with nothing but a Yakuza Like A Dragon on Gamepass trailer for MS to show)
  • Cuphead DLC (teased by Jez and at least one other insider as I recall)
  • Activision game (teased by Jez)
  • Starfield 2021 (Xbox Era guys in particular took a giant L on this one, claiming that MS bought advertising slots for Starfield Holiday 2021)
  • Ubisoft exclusive (don't recall which of the insiders teased this, but I do remember seeing it last week)
  • Xbox making some games exclusive to Gamepass, not stand alone release (Brad Sams took a big L on this one)
  • Scarlet Nexus day one gamepass (Grubb took a big L on this one, not only did Namco Bandai specifically call out his leak, but he then tried to claim that he got it mixed up with another game, but that would only make sense if he got it mixed up with another Namco Bandai game, and then Namco Bandai's Tales of Arise also wasn't announced as day one Gamepass at E3)

Now maybe some of the above things are actually happening and just didn't make E3 in time, but still. We need to stop trusting most of these insiders, most of them have a 50% accuracy record at best, and alot of the things they do get right seem to be educated guesses more so than accurate leaks.

Good post! And I'm done with all the insiders. Won't even read what they say if posted here. They lost so much credibility. Bet some will claim they did it on purpose to troll people. 



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I used to take an insider's word as 50/50 chance, after the shitshow this year it's been lowered to like 5%

IDK if MS planted some fake news to lure out the moles or what but DAMN it was ironic considering a few of these insiders were shitting on Playstation insiders for being wrong in the past. I can see most of these happening down the road though, especially interested in the Niche spinoff MS IP if that's true.



shikamaru317 said:

Now maybe some of the above things are actually happening and just didn't make E3 in time, but still. We need to stop trusting most of these insiders, most of them have a 50% accuracy record at best, and alot of the things they do get right seem to be educated guesses more so than accurate leaks.

I've been saying this for ages