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flashfire926 said:


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Wild area looks great, aside from those sudden weather cuts. I just hope they take that concept and implement it across the entire game in the next generation. Larger, more open routes with visible Pokémon on all of them. If all Pokémon have overworld models next gen they can bring back Pokémon following as well.



Every new leak or intentional release concerning S/S has dampened any hype I had. If you're going to charge $20 more, you need earn that extra dough.

Cut content, atrocious visuals, lying to consumers, that last one in particular irks me. I don't think I'll be supporting this game at launch. It's not like I don't already have other games competing for my time.

Cancelling the launch event in Japan shows they know the game's a misfire.

But I am curious, to everyone who is buying the game, what has justified the extra $20 you'll be spending? What are the new features that's convinced you to pay more, or would you have always spent $60 on each Pokemon title had they launched at that price point?



haxxiy said:
I see the gears + ice cream + garbage trio are in, while I can't even begin to count how many more interesting Pokémon (both in terms of appearance and competitive gameplay) are out. Oh my.

I was thinking along this line as well. Of all the ones those choose to keep, they choose some with the worse designs, particularly Vanilluxe.



SecondWar said:
haxxiy said:
I see the gears + ice cream + garbage trio are in, while I can't even begin to count how many more interesting Pokémon (both in terms of appearance and competitive gameplay) are out. Oh my.

I was thinking along this line as well. Of all the ones those choose to keep, they choose some with the worse designs, particularly Vanilluxe.

The art director on Sword and Shield created the Vanillite line, so of course they were staying in.



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Jpcc86 said:
To be fair 35 of those are probably all the Z-moves they introduced last gen and since its a feature they are removing altogether then it makes sense they get cut.
Still a couple of moves on that list are classic moves that have been around since Gen1. Not particularly strong or unbalancing ones, so its a bit weird they removed them.

A few of the others are the special Pikachi/Eevee moves froms Lets Go, so those are hardly surprising.

The thing I'm finding a bit surreal is that for the last few generations more people had been saying that the number of Pkemon was getting too big. Then they actually cut some temporarily and everyone goes mental.



SecondWar said:
Jpcc86 said:
To be fair 35 of those are probably all the Z-moves they introduced last gen and since its a feature they are removing altogether then it makes sense they get cut.
Still a couple of moves on that list are classic moves that have been around since Gen1. Not particularly strong or unbalancing ones, so its a bit weird they removed them.

A few of the others are the special Pikachi/Eevee moves froms Lets Go, so those are hardly surprising.

The thing I'm finding a bit surreal is that for the last few generations more people had been saying that the number of Pkemon was getting too big. Then they actually cut some temporarily and everyone goes mental.

Why? Pokemon's fanbase is huge, and like this event has demostrated, everyone has different opinions about what the series should and shouldn't do.



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StriderKiwi said:
Every new leak or intentional release concerning S/S has dampened any hype I had. If you're going to charge $20 more, you need earn that extra dough.

Cut content, atrocious visuals, lying to consumers, that last one in particular irks me. I don't think I'll be supporting this game at launch. It's not like I don't already have other games competing for my time.

Cancelling the launch event in Japan shows they know the game's a misfire.

But I am curious, to everyone who is buying the game, what has justified the extra $20 you'll be spending? What are the new features that's convinced you to pay more, or would you have always spent $60 on each Pokemon title had they launched at that price point?

so i am buying it, even tho i am one of the #bringbacknationaldex people...

reason 1.

i was looking at the leaked pokemon and there are somw designs that i really love! i don't wanna miss these pokemon especially if i maybe won't be able to get them later. (its a weird feeling like saving them from the bad developers and hoping to bring them over to a better game one day...)

2.

i really wanna make myself a picture of the game myself! i wanna be able to tell people if the game is really bad and that i have played it!



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It was hard to digest at first, but after watching how Sword/Shield is probably the biggest upgrade on a Pokemon game, I believe the cut is justifiable, or worth it at least.

However, the greatest beauty of Pokemon games is the after game, which will be severly downgraded by the big cut. I just hope there is more in there than just the 400 Gallar Dex.

I believe the chances of getting the rest as DLC are very high. We are live in the add-on era, and for a game that is selling more than 10m, resources and effort is not an excuse. You get our money, hire more and do it. As for the balance issue, they can always cut moves and downgrade overpowered pokemon to keep the balance. Pokemon is about Gotta Catch'em all!!



don't mind my username, that was more than 10 years ago, I'm a different person now, amazing how people change ^_^

dark_gh0st_b0y said:

It was hard to digest at first, but after watching how Sword/Shield is probably the biggest upgrade on a Pokemon game, I believe the cut is justifiable, or worth it at least.

However, the greatest beauty of Pokemon games is the after game, which will be severly downgraded by the big cut. I just hope there is more in there than just the 400 Gallar Dex.

I believe the chances of getting the rest as DLC are very high. We are live in the add-on era, and for a game that is selling more than 10m, resources and effort is not an excuse. You get our money, hire more and do it. As for the balance issue, they can always cut moves and downgrade overpowered pokemon to keep the balance. Pokemon is about Gotta Catch'em all!!

It's not an upgrade at all, even graphically.

Sun and Moon looked better than this. ORAS looked better than this. Every DS/GBA instalment looked better than this. The Let's Go games looked better than this.

Scaling is fucked too, look how tiny Snorlax and Wailord are.

Wailord's supposed to be 48'10", the second largest Pokemon there is. It's dwarfed by a 10 year-old.

Climbing ladders freezes all characters in the overworld. This is more than broken, it's advanced broken.

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