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Which is the best movie of the Craig era (so far)?

Casino Royal 13 76.47%
 
Quantum of Solace 0 0%
 
Skyfall 4 23.53%
 
Spectre 0 0%
 
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drbunnig said:
Looks like coronavirus has ruined our schedule.

Hey, this means I'll have enough time to catch up.



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Darwinianevolution said:
drbunnig said:
Looks like coronavirus has ruined our schedule.

Hey, this means I'll have enough time to catch up.

Will you though? 😉



After chatting with Doc755, we decided that it's best to proceed as normal and then reconvene in November for No Time to Die.

Who knows: maybe we'll come up with another movie rewatch to bide the time until then  



Doc755 said:
Darwinianevolution said:

Hey, this means I'll have enough time to catch up.

Will you though? 😉

I can try. :P

I'll try to see The Living Daylights tomorrow.



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Die Another Day was trash.



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drbunnig said:
Die Another Day. Dear oh dear. A 3 from me.

And it'starts so well too. Terrible theme song aside, this has the makings of another decent-good Bond flick early on. There's one or two issues (what is the deal with the heart attack? And that invisible car... just no), but the stuff in North Korea, Cuba and London are all well done and offer enough intrigue. I really like Zao as a villain, although Graves I never felt was too effective as an adversary. Then we get to Iceland, and it all falls to pieces. Hands down the worst section of any Bond film. The laser fight, the wind surfing, the car chase in the palace... it's just one calamity after another. The finale on the plane is really poor as well. The only positive in this part is Miranda's turn - I think Rosamund Pike is great in this role.

Also, what's with all those slow mo shots? They're almost as bad as some of the green screen shots. There's some absolutely atrocious dialogue too, particularly for Jinx, whose sass is incredibly irritating. The drop in quality from the first half to the second is frankly staggering, and drops a potential 6-7 score to a 3. This is truly the nadir of the Bond films.

I loved the intro.

The movie jumped the shark for me at the invisible car. The slow mo was very annoying, like it was trying to be the Matrix. I found them to be even worse than the green screen shots.

3 out of 10 for me, too.



I just saw "The Living Daylights".

Quite a turnaround for Bond movies. Leaving behind the more over the top and fantastic aspects of the Moore movies, The Living Daylights follows a very solid structure, with one of the most down to earth plots in the series. It also manageg to keep me guessing about the villain's plan without being too convoluted or contrived. The script is surprisingly well written, and it manages to deliver some great scenes that take advantage of the spy setting. Maybe the only problem it has is how dated some of the setpieces are, but I guess I can't be too hard on the movie for that. Timothy Dalton plays a much more grounded and professional Bond, with less of the glamour and theatrics of Moore or Connery. His acting makes a lot of the movie work. The scene in which he has Pushkin pinned down and he threatens to execute him is a rather chilling scene, reinforcing his role as a spy and hired assassin. The rest of the cast, however, is not that great. Maryam d'Abo is not a particularly good or noteworthy Bond girl (though she's smarter than usual and actively participates in the plot), and the whole cello subplot feels somewhat tacky, I kept expecting the cello to have some sort of importance for the plot, but it never really has it. The villains are also pretty weak. The three antagonists range between generic and annoying, which is not a good thing. In particular, the arms dealer and the "defector" aren't particularly intimidating or threatening, leaving all of that work to the main hencheman, which does have a really good infiltration scene in the country mansion. Also, the super car didn't really match the tone of the movie. It's one thing that Bond has a couple of hi-tech gadgets, and another thing entirely to have the fucking gadgetmobile.

Overall, it's a solid movie, and a welcomed change of pace in regards to Bond movies. A solid 8/10.



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Snesboy said:

I loved the intro.

The movie jumped the shark for me at the invisible car. The slow mo was very annoying, like it was trying to be the Matrix. I found them to be even worse than the green screen shots.

3 out of 10 for me, too.

It's funny how many entries in popular franchises from the late 90s and early 2000s that were slammed hard on their initial release are being revisited by fans, and being judged to be not as bad as we thought they were at the time... except for Die Another Day, which most people still seem to agree completely sucks ass.

Not that I can disagree with that assessment, mind you.



PSA: As we head into the Craig era, streaming options once again become limited, however for those with HBO or any of its associated apps, Casino Royale and Quantum of Solace are among the options.



Die Another Day

Opening credits are awful – a very music video style sequence.  The theme tune, its certainly a divisive one, people either love it or really hate. I’m actually ok with it even if it doesn’t fit the film and led to Madonna’s awful cameo.

So I'm not actually going to review any further, this is film is so bad it's not even worthy of it.
I'll just note some of the embarrassments:
Needlessly terrible looking Green Scene after Green Scene sequences, half of which could have easily been shot with stunts on location.
Invisible Car, windsurfing, the danger room sequence with the sunglasses, almost every actin sequence in slow-motion, Michael Madsen looking like it doesn't want to be here, the creating of some stupid DNA restructuring storyline seemingly so they can have a North Korean villain but played by a white British guy...

Stephens is even less intimidating as a villain than Jonathan Pryce, an at least Pryce had the excuse of age and playing a media mogul, not a general.
Rosemund Pike is the only person who comes out of this with any credibility.

Atrocious... 1/10.

Last edited by noir_solitude - on 08 March 2020