For context, the cost of the wall is pennies for the government. Even the most extreme estimates for illegal immigration by right wing groups is pennies more than the wall.
There is no possible future in any nearby century, where the US comes crashing down due to the cost of illegals.
Seeing how ICE has literally arrested and jailed a US citizen,
I would say they are clearly doing a terrible job.
I will agree I am definitely left.
The current Democratic party is center left. Which certainly feels far left, considering the US has not had a major left wing political party in decades.
Republicans have not moved to center. Take for example healthcare:
During the 90's, Obamacare would have been the Republican bill.
Suddenly in 2009, it's a left wing bill. How do you think that happened?
The whole point is to have the tax replace current healthcare costs. If you take current healthcare costs into consideration as a "tax", it will effectively be a tax reduction. Even right wingers have estimated hundreds of billions in savings.
We have been throwing out illegals. During the Obama era, over a million illegals were deported yearly.
Even if the wall were to work 100%, it wouldn't fix the immigration problem. Around half of all illegal immigrants who come here, don't come over the southern border.
No one wants high taxes.
The 20 million estimate doesn't hold up.
>Essentially we have a government doing a terrible job balancing our current budget yet want to spend significantly more with new social programs.
Largely because not everyone wants the same thing. No one wants higher taxes. But both sides are happy to spend more money. Republicans are happy to spend an extra $100 billion on the military. Democrats want to spend an extra $100 billion on schooling, but no that's irresponsible. Democrats at least understand that we need taxes to pay for things.
Medicare does fine. It could be better, but the same is true for private insurance.
Due to administration, (private and public), hospitals would go under if they only charged at Medicare costs.
But a big reason for medicare for all would be to reduce administration costs.
Just because an area votes Democratic, doesn't mean they are liberal. And it certainly doesn't mean they are liberal in every position.
Liberal ideas in general are far more expensive than bringing in illegals alone. My only concern isnt the illegals.
Im sure ICE and every agency makes mistakes. Most illegals are good people, but some stab innocent people to death. Shit happens. Cherry picking stories is not something Im looking to do.
I would say democrats are simply pushing left to extreme left ideas right now. Some are certainly staying center left in practice, but they are pandering just left to oppose Trump. Any center ideas Trump has is suddenly too extreme.
Again, personally I dont think making tweaks to healthcare is an inherently a bad idea. Does that mean I think Obamacare was a good idea? Most say no, even dems dont like it.
A vast majority of the democratic presidential candidates are telling people they dont want to take away private healthcare. Youre suggesting the whole point is to tax people off of private healthcare as an option. I wish they were as honest as you so it would be clear.
I agree the wall on its own wont solve the problem. I also said its partly symbolic and desired because the problems with illegals.
Did some searching on Mexico's "universal healthcare." Frankly, if that counts than the US has already achieved it. People dont talk about it because its a mess. Also, people attempting to come over have been known to have health problems as well. So as of right now Mexico's universal health system is smoke and mirrors but kudos on the effort I guess.
Indeed, nobody wants high taxes which is why dems are just focusing on the rich being taxed. In reality and you admit taxes will go up on everybody significantly.
Im simply pointing out there is no real count of the illegal population and I highly doubt the low estimates are accurate. On a side note, California doesent seem to release abortion numbers. Personally I feel all this information should be tracked and shared with the public. But it doesent happen because it might hurt left leaning ideologies.
Democrats actually supported the military spending increase which is why it happened easily. Both sides also have people that want to attack Iran. We already spend more money on education than almost every other country. This just becomes another example of inefficient spending. Also, spending doesent make kids smarter but it does put money in the pockets of staff.
Medicare apparently still pays a lot more than other countries for the same procedures and drugs. Hence, make so some tweaks and force them do it for less. As would a universal system. Maybe regulations need to change if they could go under.
If they arent liberal they should stop letting democrats ruin their cities and states. Again, theyre objectively chasing people out. Major cities can continue growing fast when run properly, not chasing people to more conserative cities/states.
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