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Rate the 2019 Xbox E3 Conference

10 2 3.23%
 
9 3 4.84%
 
8 8 12.90%
 
7 11 17.74%
 
6 18 29.03%
 
5 9 14.52%
 
4 6 9.68%
 
3 2 3.23%
 
2 2 3.23%
 
1 1 1.61%
 
Total:62
errorpwns said:
Barkley said:

That's what the initial rumors were. I would expect it to be on 7mm to reduce cost and maximize performance/cooling. The TDP on the 3700x is absurdly good. I can only imagine how good the custom chip is.

Yields need to be higher for consoles, though, so console parts never achieve the highs (lows?) in terms of power consumption and temperature compared to laptops and PC parts.



 

 

 

 

 

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Just finished watching and damn thta was a good show. One of the best shows this gen up there with Nintendo E3 2014.



I give the show a 9.



Lafiel said:
Great show from MS, tons of interesting games, but too many CG only trailers. Scarlett with 4 times X1X power? Surely they don't mean 24TF with that, right? No way they could offer a mad build like that sub $1k.

They didn't say 24TF. They said 4x more computational power than xbox one x. The cpu alone will offer 2.5 - 3 times more performance combined with a gpu 2x performance and you have your number. 



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More important than the specs is that Spencer emphasized that Scarlett will be only about one thing and that is gaming. It can be ruled out that Microsoft will commit blunders like with the Xbox One, so the sales potential for Scarlett is higher.



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RolStoppable said:
More important than the specs is that Spencer emphasized that Scarlett will be only about one thing and that is gaming. It can be ruled out that Microsoft will commit blunders like with the Xbox One, so the sales potential for Scarlett is higher.

Yep. No dumb early focus on multimedia and Kinect like XB1. Just a pure game console. Assuming the price is right, Scarlett is basically guaranteed to sell more than Xbox One, especially since they're going to have a stronger 1st party next-gen than they had this gen. 



Barkley said:
shikamaru317 said:

120 fps and 8k makes it sound highly unbelievable.

It'll just mean it supports 8k output, no games are going to run at it. PS5 I believe was already confirmed to support 8k. At best maybe BC Original Xbox/360 games will run at 8k.

The original PS4 supports 4k for example, but it can only be used for Media.

Up to the developer.
The Playstation 4 and Xbox One are limited by the HDMI port... Which top out at 4k, 30fps... Which is why we never saw it leveraged, even for up-scaling.

Marth said:
Its nice being noticed by Microsoft as a PC player.

It really is at the moment!

Skeeuk said:
Next gen consoles will put most pc to shame

Not mine though! :P

Lafiel said:
Great show from MS, tons of interesting games, but too many CG only trailers. Scarlett with 4 times X1X power? Surely they don't mean 24TF with that, right? No way they could offer a mad build like that sub $1k.

It isn't overtly difficult to have 4x the power with less than 4x the Teraflops. GCN is an extremely inefficient architecture.
People need to stop clinging to flops as the be-all, end-all.

haxxiy said:
Lafiel said:
Great show from MS, tons of interesting games, but too many CG only trailers. Scarlett with 4 times X1X power? Surely they don't mean 24TF with that, right? No way they could offer a mad build like that sub $1k.

It's 100% CPU.

Also, it seems to have twelve memory modules surrounding a ~300 mm2 chip (assuming it's three on each side), so I'm thinking 24 GB GDDR6 RAM and performance more or less in line with the Vega 64 / RTX 2060 GPUs.

I would expect a larger than 4x increase for the CPU, especially with some more modern instructions... Unless Microsoft got conservative with clockrates and held back performance.

12 memory modules would likely mean 24GB of Ram and a 384-bit memory bus, which falls inline with it being a direct Xbox One X replacement.

CGI-Quality said:
shikamaru317 said:

According to leaked specs, it will top the 1080 on GPU performance by a fairly significant margin. As for the CPU, an 8 core Zen 2 is not a match for an 8th gen 6 core i7 as far as I know, it's more on par with an 8th gen i5 I think, in games

Nah, it should be able to compete with higher end procs than mainstream i5s. Probably won't surpass the best i7s, but the 3-4000K range procs? Shouldn't be too hard.

Should have an edge in highly threaded scenarios, but fall back during lighter threaded scenarios where Intel typically holds an edge anyway... It really depends on the final clockrates though... High TDP's allowances Intel/AMD CPU's on the desktop to turbo up allot.

shikamaru317 said:

Sorry, I was mistaken. I was under the impression that Ryzen 2000 was Zen 2, and that Ryzen 3000 was Zen 3, but Ryzen 1000 and 2000 are Zen and Zen+ respectively apparently, while 3000 is Zen 2. So I thought that Anaconda and PS5 were using Ryzen 2000 CPU's, not Ryzen 3000. Yeah, an 8 core Ryzen 3000 in Anaconda and PS5 should at least match an 8th gen 6 core i7, assuming that PS5 and Anaconda are using desktop class CPU's, and not mobile class Zen 2 CPU's.

I worry that Sony and MS may try to save some space on their chipset for a bigger GPU by using mobile class CPU's again, like they did with the mobile class Jaguar this gen. I hope they don't do that, they should at least give us laptop class CPU cores, if not desktop class.  

Ryzen 1000 is Zen, Ryzen 2000 is Zen +, Ryzen 3000 desktop is Zen 2.


Mobile Ryzen 2000 is Zen, Ryzen 3000 is Zen +.

RolStoppable said:
More important than the specs is that Spencer emphasized that Scarlett will be only about one thing and that is gaming. It can be ruled out that Microsoft will commit blunders like with the Xbox One, so the sales potential for Scarlett is higher.

Yeah. Companies tend to learn from their mistakes, especially when there are billions of dollars on the line.





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Pemalite said:
Skeeuk said:
Next gen consoles will put most pc to shame

Not mine though! :P

CGI-Quality said:

Nah, it should be able to compete with higher end procs than mainstream i5s. Probably won't surpass the best i7s, but the 3-4000K range procs? Shouldn't be too hard.

Should have an edge in highly threaded scenarios, but fall back during lighter threaded scenarios where Intel typically holds an edge anyway... It really depends on the final clockrates though... High TDP's allowances Intel/AMD CPU's on the desktop to turbo up allot.

Nope, not mine either (and that's before I upgrade this and next year)

Regarding the second part, I know you, like me, will be watching closely!



                                                                                                                                                           

shikamaru317 said:
RolStoppable said:
More important than the specs is that Spencer emphasized that Scarlett will be only about one thing and that is gaming. It can be ruled out that Microsoft will commit blunders like with the Xbox One, so the sales potential for Scarlett is higher.

Yep. No dumb early focus on multimedia and Kinect like XB1. Just a pure game console. Assuming the price is right, Scarlett is basically guaranteed to sell more than Xbox One, especially since they're going to have a stronger 1st party next-gen than they had this gen. 

Maybe,  maybe not.  

I don't see any evidence of MS software being stronger.  Looks pretty much the same to me.

The scarlett section was handled pretty badly.  Playing catch up to Sony on stuff we already know (loading, 8k, 120hz, custom ssd) and showing off Halo without any wow factor.