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Encouraging prepubescent gender transformation is...

A good thing. Not child abuse. 10 14.93%
 
A bad thing. Child abuse. 40 59.70%
 
Depends on the situation. (In comments) 17 25.37%
 
Total:67

I was actually going to bump this thread today. Seems a lot has been happening (EDIT) in the case where the father claimed that the mother was forcing their child to identify as transgendered (/EDIT).

Earlier this month, a jury ruled in favor of the mother, providing her with sole custody 11-1, however, earlier today, a judge overruled that decision, instead granting joint custody (and providing the father a say in medical decisions). I personally disagree with this ruling, and it is disgusting to see how both conservative media and conservative politicians have exploited this case and smeared the mother despite how transparently false the father's claims were. This will undoubtedly be very difficult and damaging for the child and her family.

EDIT:https://www.thedailybeast.com/how-the-right-weaponized-a-7-year-old-trans-child?source=articles&via=rss

Last edited by sundin13 - on 24 October 2019

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sundin13 said:

I was actually going to bump this thread today. Seems a lot has been happening.

Earlier this month, a jury ruled in favor of the mother, providing her with sole custody 11-1, however, earlier today, a judge overruled that decision, instead granting joint custody (and providing the father a say in medical decisions). I personally disagree with this ruling, and it is disgusting to see how both conservative media and conservative politicians have exploited this case and smeared the mother despite how transparently false the father's claims were. This will undoubtedly be very difficult and damaging for the child and her family.

Would help if you were to name the case.



KLAMarine said:
sundin13 said:

I was actually going to bump this thread today. Seems a lot has been happening.

Earlier this month, a jury ruled in favor of the mother, providing her with sole custody 11-1, however, earlier today, a judge overruled that decision, instead granting joint custody (and providing the father a say in medical decisions). I personally disagree with this ruling, and it is disgusting to see how both conservative media and conservative politicians have exploited this case and smeared the mother despite how transparently false the father's claims were. This will undoubtedly be very difficult and damaging for the child and her family.

Would help if you were to name the case.

Oh, sorry, I think I got this mixed up with the newer version of this thread (which appears to have been closed?).

https://www.thedailybeast.com/how-the-right-weaponized-a-7-year-old-trans-child?source=articles&via=rss

tldr: Father claims that mother is forcing child to be transgendered. Story gets picked up by a lot of (primarily conservative) news outlets, basically parroting the father's talking points that the child isn't truly transgendered. Turns out the father was basically lying about significant portions of his story.

Heres the video from the other thread which goes into a lot of detail on what happened:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvjHn6QEgh4&



CuCabeludo said:
When i was 7 years old I wanted to be a Smurf. Would a judge force my parents to tatoo my skin in blue if i lived my childhood on this day and age?

No. Smurf is not a psychological cognition. And even if it were, a judge cannot force a parent to do that.



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sundin13 said:
KLAMarine said:

Would help if you were to name the case.

Oh, sorry, I think I got this mixed up with the newer version of this thread (which appears to have been closed?).

https://www.thedailybeast.com/how-the-right-weaponized-a-7-year-old-trans-child?source=articles&via=rss

tldr: Father claims that mother is forcing child to be transgendered. Story gets picked up by a lot of (primarily conservative) news outlets, basically parroting the father's talking points that the child isn't truly transgendered. Turns out the father was basically lying about significant portions of his story.

Heres the video from the other thread which goes into a lot of detail on what happened:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvjHn6QEgh4&

What in particular was the father lying about?



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KLAMarine said:
sundin13 said:

Oh, sorry, I think I got this mixed up with the newer version of this thread (which appears to have been closed?).

https://www.thedailybeast.com/how-the-right-weaponized-a-7-year-old-trans-child?source=articles&via=rss

tldr: Father claims that mother is forcing child to be transgendered. Story gets picked up by a lot of (primarily conservative) news outlets, basically parroting the father's talking points that the child isn't truly transgendered. Turns out the father was basically lying about significant portions of his story.

Heres the video from the other thread which goes into a lot of detail on what happened:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvjHn6QEgh4&

What in particular was the father lying about?

One example is that he repeatedly made the claim that he provided the child the opportunity to decide for themselves what type of clothing they wanted to wear when speaking to the media. However, in court documents, he admitted that he did not actually have any female clothing in his house. This is basically an admission that his entire assertion that it was the child's choice to not identify as a female when with the father was false.

He was also lying about the impact his religion had on his beliefs about his child's gender identity and I believe there were several false statements regarding the psychological evaluations of the child.

There is a lot of info in the video I posted earlier if you are interested including readings from the court transcripts which I haven't seen any print media discuss.