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Machiavellian said:
vivster said:

It's sad what Biden is doing, or not doing. What's even more sad is that there are actually people who would consider not voting democrat the next election. Which makes it even more sad that Biden does not care to get reelected.

Just wondering but what is Biden not doing that would cause him not to get reelected this early in his term.  I mean its not even 100 days in and we seem to have a lot of doom and gloom.  If this is all it takes to not get reelected when you have 4 years to get things done, I guess there will never be any hope for any Dem president.

Moren said:
vivster said:

It's sad what Biden is doing, or not doing. What's even more sad is that there are actually people who would consider not voting democrat the next election. Which makes it even more sad that Biden does not care to get reelected.

Don't judge the merits of the administration based on the delusional propaganda videos posted on this thread.

The 1.9 Trillion bill is unprecedented. Cuts child poverty in half, extends the unemployment boost for months, and gives $1400 to people who makes 75K and less. Not to mention the record number of executive orders to protect the environment.

And the $15 Minimum wage debate is coming back. The COVID bill was just too urgent to delay.

The last time progressives were butthurt about a democrat candidate Trump got elected.

Never underestimate frustrated progressives. They are willing to destroy the country if they are not allowed to save it.



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As mentioned by another poster more moderate Dems (8 now) are voting against including the $15 min wage 

This will have repercussions down the line, those moderate Dems could be targeted in any future election in their own states and replaced by progressives due to the hugely popular nature of this reform

The next 2 years looks bleak, once voters get wind of moderate Dems not supporting popular life changing measures or addressing huge inequality issues, the Dems will loose the balance of power because again they will be part of the Cause, and why a Symptom like Trump had a chance to thrive 

  



Trumpstyle said:

Turns out a lot more senate democrats were against $15 hour minimum wage. Bernie Sanders offered an amendment to try get this into the Covid bill even though it would violate the byrd rule.

Note that Angus King is a independent senator that always vote with the Democrats.

It is difficult to say if this means that these individuals are against the $15 minimum wage or simply against the amendment. As adding this amendment would require the bill to get 60 votes due to the decision of the parliamentarian, there are significant reasons to vote "No" even if you agree with the provision behind it. For example, Sinema, one of the key votes in this whole deal released a statement which essentially said that she doesn't support this because she believes it should be handled outside of the Covid bill. Now, that may very well be a fairly poor shield for her decision to vote "No", but I don't believe that we can assume all of these individuals would vote "No" on a stand alone bill as a result of this action.



The Covid Stimulus Package has passed the Senate on a 50-49 vote. It heads back to the House for approval. Biden is expected to sign the bill by March 14th.

Glad they got this done.



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Kyrsten Sinema Dem Senator from Arizona has flippantly and insultingly down voted the $15 minimum wage after bringing into the senate a large chocolate cake, very bad optics, people in her state are talking about this, she is getting a lot of blow back from her own people, it should cost her down the line, this may start to chip away at the base support for the Dems something the Progressives and unfortunately the Reps can exploit, the balance of power is slipping away from the Dems with this popular and critical bill's refusal    



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Quick reminder that while there were concessions made on the Covid Relief Bill, it is still a huge fucking deal and much more than what you would have gotten if Democrats weren't in power. By every measure, it is a monumental win for Democrats and it is doing a disservice to the hard work put into this bill by people on the left like Bernie, to write it off as an abject failure, or say that this proves that the Democrats are the same as Republicans. It is cause for celebration, and we should give the same "fuck off" to people on the left telling us otherwise that we give to people like Ted Cruz telling us otherwise.



The Problem with centrists/moderates in the Democratic Party is the hollowing out of values to cater to the Rich and Powerful, putting the burden on the working poor and middle income families, this will lead to a rapid power shift back to the Reps which will be first realised in 2 years at the midterms 

Centrists ignoring popular reforms like M4A, $15 min wage and others by catering to the Rich donor class wont be well received in future polls by the young/new voters and working poor as they see one reform/promise get ignored one after another, it's the status quo all over again for them     

 



sundin13 said:

Quick reminder that while there were concessions made on the Covid Relief Bill, it is still a huge fucking deal and much more than what you would have gotten if Democrats weren't in power. By every measure, it is a monumental win for Democrats and it is doing a disservice to the hard work put into this bill by people on the left like Bernie, to write it off as an abject failure, or say that this proves that the Democrats are the same as Republicans. It is cause for celebration, and we should give the same "fuck off" to people on the left telling us otherwise that we give to people like Ted Cruz telling us otherwise.

I agree.



Senate Dems have agreed to cut the Unemployment Insurance (UI) from $400 to $300 per week, it's the poor that are paying the price, were are the taxes for the Rich instead, the Dems have the interests those powerful donors covered 

Biden also limits eligibility for stimulus payments because of pressure from "moderate"/"centrist" Senate Democrats, not even Reps, but from Dems :/   



Rab said:

Senate Dems have agreed to cut the Unemployment Insurance (UI) from $400 to $300 per week, it's the poor that are paying the price, were are the taxes for the Rich instead, the Dems have the interests those powerful donors covered 

Biden also limits eligibility for stimulus payments because of pressure from "moderate"/"centrist" Senate Democrats, not even Reps, but from Dems :/   

It does stink that the UI had been decreased to $300/wk and the eligibility for stimulus payments was brought down, but they needed to compromise with the moderate Senate Democrats to get it passed. If they didn't do that, the bill would've failed.