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mZuzek said:

I do remember playing SMB3 a little as a kid - not sure if I had played more modern games before it at the time or not, but I didn't really care about that. Even as a kid, Mario games never did it for me, but if there was one that clearly stood out it was SMW. I get that people were hyped over SMB3, but the way I see it, it was just a worse version of a game that came very shortly after. Personally, to this day I just don't get what's so fun about SMB3, every time I decide to give it a chance and play it for a while to try to appreciate the masterpiece people say it is, I just don't have any fun at all, or at least not any more fun than I do playing SMB1 (which is, not much). I guess Mario games really just aren't for me, but out of the ones I've played there are some I at least enjoyed (and one I loved, but talking 2017 in this case is a bit beside the point), and I can't say that for SMB3 despite having tried several times to get into it.

I always felt Super Mario World was in some ways a step down from SMB3. While it was fun and had the same amazing level design one would expect from a Super Mario game and had a lot of secrets and the ability to replay levels, the controls didn't feel as tight (it feels a bit "twitchy-er," as if Mario accelerates way too quickly), and it had less variety than SMB3 did, with fewer power-ups (and the Feather Cape was so OP that you didn't need to bother with a Fire Flower) and a lack of distinct level themes. It's still my second-favorite 2D Mario game, and is still among my Top 10 games of all time, but I still prefer SMB3 as a total package.



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mZuzek said:
Speaking of statistics and stuff (by the way, that was some in-depth stuff there), I just want to express my disdain for all of you Super Mario Bros. 3 voters. Seriously, this has to be the most overrated game out there, ever. I'm never going to understand the love for it.

I was around when it first came out. It was the first truly modern platformer. The game looked amazing even by NES standards. The level design still holds up well today. It kinda gets listed so high for the same reason OoT gets listed so high. It just did everything first, and holds up fairly well in the gameplay department. Both games have been outdone in recent years, but the fact that they did it first, and did it decades before other games on people's lists makes them rank highly. 

BTW, I put my list in today. It is in the main thread where lists go. 

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The task of ranking my top 50 games was pretty tough. There were a lot of games I had to reflect upon as I have not played them in years, even games like Mass Effect 2, Super Mario World, and Sonic Adventure. It was an interesting exercise to say the least.

I guess it's also weird of me ranking games like NBA Street among the top 50 of my favorites of all-time. At one point in my life, basketball was pretty much my obsession. While I still love the game now, basketball was pretty much everywhere for me when I was younger. Playing the NBA Street series was some of the most fun I've had.



Finally got back home after 9 days away. I filled in the last five games on my list and thought I'd share some statistics from my list for anyone interested.

First, here are the games that fell out from the list this year:

  • Super Mario 64 (Currently #54)
  • Tales of Symphonia (Currently #53)
  • Mega Man 2 (Currently #52)
And here are the new games on my list:
  • Yakuza 0 (at #29)
  • Hollow Knight (at #28)
  • Horizon Zero Dawn (at #19)
Platform Breakdown (By number of games):
  • NES: 2 Games (Highest ranked game was Super Mario Bros. 3 at #24) 
  • SNES: 4 Games (Final Fantasy VI at #17)
  • WiiU: 1 Game (Super Smash Bros. for WiiU at #33)
  • PS1: 5 Games (Final Fantasy IX at #1, The Legend of Dragoon at #2)
  • PS2: 9 Games (Shadow of the Colossus at #6)
  • PS3: 17 Games (Dark Souls at #4)
  • PS4: 5 Games (Dark Souls III at #8)
  • PC: 9 Games (Freespace 2 at #3)
Decade Breakdown (going by the games' EU release date):
  • 1990s: 11 Games
  • 2000s: 17 Games 
  • 2010s: 24 Games
Most Represented Franchises:
  1. Final Fantasy: 5 Games
  2. The Legend of Heroes: 4 Games
  3. Dark Souls: 3 Games (4 if you count Bloodborne as part of the series)
  4. Command & Conquer: 2 Games
  5. Uncharted: 2 Games
Other Random Stats:
  • Biggest Winner: Bloodborne and Final Fantasy VIII (Up 2 Spots from last year)
  • Biggest Loser: Command & Conquer (Down 9 Spots)
  • My top 3 has remained the same since 2001
  • The oldest game in my top 50 is Super Mario Bros.3 (1991)
  • The newest game is Horizon Zero Dawn (2017)
And that's about all I can think of right now. Really enjoyed doing this once again, and I'm already looking forward to seeing how the top 50 changes over the next year. There's already one potential game that might make it in next year.


Darashiva said:

I'm already looking forward to seeing how the top 50 changes over the next year. There's already one potential game that might make it in next year.

What game might that be, I wonder.



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Mnementh said:
mZuzek said:

So, with that out of the way, I'm gonna get to work. In the meantime, I'd appreciate it if you guys kept this thread going a little longer - it always saddens me to see people leaving it so early every year... but then again, I can't really ask for people to discuss about something when I've nothing to propose. Oh well.

We could now that we finalized our own lists take a peek at the lists of others and make the new years resolution to choose a game and play it this year from a different list which we don't know yet. I wanted to play Neverwinter Nights already the last year, but didn't came around to it, so I should try this year. Also I always only play Heroes of Might and Magic 3, I should also try out other parts in the series, namely 2, which is high on Liquid_Lasers list.

I already played Katamari Damacy in December, which is a great game and qualifies for my next years list. One of the games that don't get old, like Okami.

This is a good idea. I had already picked one a couple of weeks ago though when mZuzek and... I’m sorry I don’t remember.. was it you? Could have been you.. Anyway I’m finally going to play Okami this year, bought the Japanese retail Switch version. Got delivered to my neighbour for some reason, but that’s okay.

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I don't have statistics for my list, but I know that the dominant developers are Nintendo EAD and Square/Square-Enix and the dominant platform is the PS2. Zelda is the franchise with the most representation in my list. Maybe I should have been "MasterSwordWielder" :p



S.Peelman said:
Mnementh said:

We could now that we finalized our own lists take a peek at the lists of others and make the new years resolution to choose a game and play it this year from a different list which we don't know yet. I wanted to play Neverwinter Nights already the last year, but didn't came around to it, so I should try this year. Also I always only play Heroes of Might and Magic 3, I should also try out other parts in the series, namely 2, which is high on Liquid_Lasers list.

I already played Katamari Damacy in December, which is a great game and qualifies for my next years list. One of the games that don't get old, like Okami.

This is a good idea. I had already picked one a couple of weeks ago though when mZuzek and... I’m sorry I don’t remember.. was it you? Could have been you.. Anyway I’m finally going to play Okami this year, bought the Japanese retail Switch version. Got delivered to my neighbour for some reason, but that’s okay.

Okami on split joy-cons is actual bliss, I'm glad you're getting to play the best version first, unlike a certain other guy who had it at #4 for two years because he only played the crappy Wii version without credits still, it is a shame that you don't get the original credits music on the Switch version unless you set the language to Japanese, but well, at least you do get credits.



mZuzek said:
Darashiva said:

I'm already looking forward to seeing how the top 50 changes over the next year. There's already one potential game that might make it in next year.

What game might that be, I wonder.

Lost Odyssey. Finally got around to playing it after having it on my shelf for years. I'm almost done with the game, but I can't say for certain yet where it'll end up on my list. I'm liking it very much though, so it might make it into the top 50 next time.



Darashiva said:
mZuzek said:

What game might that be, I wonder.

Lost Odyssey. Finally got around to playing it after having it on my shelf for years. I'm almost done with the game, but I can't say for certain yet where it'll end up on my list. I'm liking it very much though, so it might make it into the top 50 next time.

...oh. Well, that was anticlimactic.

I was thinking Smash, of course.