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Every single one of you in the US knows a women that was sexually assaulted or raped (even if they haven't told you about it). But I bet very few of you know a guy accused of it. If risk of either are equal, then we should know an number of people from each side.  And we damn sure don't.

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http://deadstate.org/christian-college-punished-football-players-who-raped-and-beat-a-student-with-an-8-page-essay/

5 students assaulted a 6th student at a Christian university where they kidnapped, beat and anally raped him with a foreign object.

The school punished them with 50 hours of community service and an 8 page paper.
The courts punished them with 100 hours of community service and a $250 fine.

A slap on the wrist. Such meager punitive consequences perpetuate the problem.



Massimus - "Trump already has democrat support."

SpokenTruth said:

Every single one of you in the US knows a women that was sexually assaulted or raped (even if they haven't told you about it). But I bet very few of you know a guy accused of it. If risk of either are equal, then we should know an number of people from each side.  And we damn sure don't.

I can honestly say that I know both a woman who was sexually abused and a man who was falsely accused of sexual assault.



SpokenTruth said:

Every single one of you in the US knows a women that was sexually assaulted or raped (even if they haven't told you about it). But I bet very few of you know a guy accused of it. If risk of either are equal, then we should know an number of people from each side.  And we damn sure don't.

And I claim bullshit on that. Or because you might know one you project we must all know one? I know the left does this a lot. Wich is why a lot of prominent male feminist are having many sexual asault cases being brought up.

How about my case, I dont know a single women who has been asaulted, but I know men who have been false acused. But you dont see me  claiming theres an epidemic or a false acusation culture. So why dont you present some Mighty evidence with your insane assumption.  Because we have police reports that say you are wrong.



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SpokenTruth said:
http://deadstate.org/christian-college-punished-football-players-who-raped-and-beat-a-student-with-an-8-page-essay/

5 students assaulted a 6th student at a Christian university where they kidnapped, beat and anally raped him with a foreign object.

The school punished them with 50 hours of community service and an 8 page paper.
The courts punished them with 100 hours of community service and a $250 fine.

A slap on the wrist. Such meager punitive consequences perpetuate the problem.

DId you read that article, or you expected nobody to read that shot article?

At no point was that guy raped. They said they were teasing him with rape. blindfolding freshmen and pranking them and shit like that has been done forever in college. At no point am I saying thats ok But dont exaggerate cuz you will be found out and then people will dismis the entire thing cuz you blew it out of proportion. Like you not mentioning they each payed $50k bail and where all charge with hazing, not rape. even by the same testimony the victim made it sounded like a stupid prank.



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shikamaru317 said:
SpokenTruth said:

Every single one of you in the US knows a women that was sexually assaulted or raped (even if they haven't told you about it). But I bet very few of you know a guy accused of it. If risk of either are equal, then we should know an number of people from each side.  And we damn sure don't.

I can honestly say that I know both a woman who was sexually abused and a man who was falsely accused of sexual assault.

I can honestly say you know more women who were assaulted or abused but you just don't know it.

 

If you have Facebook or Twitter, make a private poll. The results will sadden you.



Massimus - "Trump already has democrat support."

Technically ive been "sexually assaulted" a few times from a few of my inner friends that are girls. Ive had my ass slapped and grabbed numerous times without my consent and the second I say im going to the same thing to them they run away. I only see it as a game though but im not in their heads I dont know if they really want to grope me or anything because its not the way I think nor do I really care. Rape is a different story obviously.



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eva01beserk said:
SpokenTruth said:

Every single one of you in the US knows a women that was sexually assaulted or raped (even if they haven't told you about it). But I bet very few of you know a guy accused of it. If risk of either are equal, then we should know an number of people from each side.  And we damn sure don't.

And I claim bullshit on that. Or because you might know one you project we must all know one? I know the left does this a lot. Wich is why a lot of prominent male feminist are having many sexual asault cases being brought up.

How about my case, I dont know a single women who has been asaulted, but I know men who have been false acused. But you dont see me  claiming theres an epidemic or a false acusation culture. So why dont you present some Mighty evidence with your insane assumption.  Because we have police reports that say you are wrong.

I'll paste part of my post you missed.  (even if they haven't told you about it).

Here are a few links to some statistics that I'm sure you'll ignore, attempt to refute, claim are lies, etc...
http://www.joyfulheartfoundation.org/learn/sexual-assault-and-rape/about-issue/who-does-sexual-assault-affect
https://www.rainn.org/statistics/victims-sexual-violence
https://www.vox.com/identities/2018/2/21/17036438/sexual-harassment-me-too-assault-hollywood
https://cdn.iwastesomuchtime.com/4112013214252StatsOnSexualAssault.jpg
https://collegestats.org/resources/sexual-assault-prevention/
http://endrapeoncampus.org/eroc-blog/2016/1/26/bjs-campus-climate-survey-key-highlights
http://www.quchronicle.com/2016/11/university-explains-sexual-assault-procedures/
http://mavaw.org/facts-and-stats/
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/sexual-assault-statistics_us_58e24c14e4b0c777f788d24f

 

For all things to be equal, 1 in 6 men must be accused of sexual assault.  Now go find me that stat.



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setsunatenshi said:
eva01beserk said:

Like I said before, these people have no argument. They express their feeling but no actual facts when they have nothing of worth to say. 

I also believe its a strategy the feminist started using that Since men cant experience what they feel during rape, then they cant argue with them about how they think its worst thing in the world. Even worst than murder. Its a way to shut down an argument by saying basically they cant weigh in since they dont have the experience. Like the no uterus no opinion on abortion thing.  

I was kind of with you on the argument until you brought in the abortion thing to misrepresent the pro choice principle. It's not like you can't have an opinion on abortion, but the principle of self determination overwhelms your opinions on it. It's 100% a woman's choice how she intends to use her body and no one can impose the physical drain of carrying anything within her body against her will.

 

Her body, her choice, period. 

Kind of depends on what rights you give to a foetus. If you see it as a self aware human being with a reactive nervous system you could argue that this fetus should share the same rights as any other human. I agree the male who inpregnated het should not have a say in this. But the legal system definitely should  have a say in this, same goes with Euthanasie. 

The juridical argument is a very solid argument against abortion. Since it does not question what a women should do, but which rights a self aware unborn has. Abortion is in fact killing a human being from 13 weeks and onward since it is actually self aware.

I am pro choice until 13 weeks, but after that period aborting a child is basically murder. From that point you don't kill a few cells which are building towards something, but you are in fact killing something that could be described as an individual.

Nobody should be allowed to kill another self aware human being willingly (even if it is a foetus). Whether or not said person is a woman or not is irrelevant. If a guy causes a woman to misscariage, by an act if violenence hé also should be charged for killing another human being. 

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Please excuse my (probally) poor grammar

As always, the "Change My Mind" format is awful and not conducive to its so called mission statement. If he actually wanted to have his mind changed, he would schedule a debate with an academic who wrote on the subject, not argue with random college students who clearly are not well enough versed on the subject.

It is an exercise in validation. Argue with a bunch of people who don't have the tools to provide counter-arguments so you can feel good about how smart and right you are.

I have little to add to the actual question right now ("rape culture" is so vague and poorly defined that to argue about it is functionally meaningless imo), but the format is a farce.