1) ...My point is that people should stop raping other people. I don't really think that is very radical, although I must note that you statement sounds a lot like "normalizing rape"...

2) I don't really think the physical possibility of joining a population negates the fact that the population is a statistical outlier...

Also, you seem to keep ignoring women when speaking about prison rape. You keep saying "these men" or acting like prison rape statistics are 100% male. They aren't.

3) When I speak of "outliers" I am speaking of outlier populations. You seem to be conflating this with "outlier individuals". They are not the same thing.

4) Why would you ever decide to use a best fit line in this scenario? That holds all the same flaws as the mean. There is not really any reason to use this method of determination (and besides, it would be virtually impossible to construct such a graph). Besides, if you were to plot by prevalence and not population size, women would be more at risk when comparing between virtually every like-population, including prison populations... This has already been demonstrated.

5) ...That reads to me like a non sequitur. I don't know how you want me to respond, especially when I've already addressed those statistics in this thread.

Well. People were already engaged in gender debates... Arguing about whether men or women were the bigger victims in various scenarios and brought in Prison statistics to assert that men were the largest victim demographics.
I merely asked a question that regardless of what gender the victims were, the perpetrators are still men, right?

you haven't posted anything here that i was unaware of

have you taken into consideration that the ratio of men to women in prison is 90% to 10%? do the math and get back to me

"My point is that people should stop raping other people"

true, but that's not going to happen unless you have some type of solution to offer?

"Also, you seem to keep ignoring women when speaking about prison rape. You keep saying "these men" or acting like prison rape statistics are 100% male. They aren't."

i did because you were dismissing them as people that matter and i find that disgusting

"When I speak of "outliers" I am speaking of outlier populations. You seem to be conflating this with "outlier individuals"."

my point still stands, you are using an aberration to make assessments of the whole that it branches from in the case of "rape culture" and refusing to be consistent when it comes to the rape of men in prisons

you can't say well the prison population is an outlier so we can't use that to make assessments of the wider culture then at the same time turn around and say well rape is abnormal but regardless i'm still going to take it and use it to assess the wider society

mentally ill people are outlier individuals, can i now take them and use them to assess the sanity of the wider society according to your logic?

"and besides, it would be virtually impossible to construct such a graph"

how do you know? you haven't tried, if you have send me a screen capture of the axes

" ...That reads to me like a non sequitur."

my point was that you are asserting that prison rape is much more common than in the wider society, but according to feminist statistics that is not the case

1) That isn't what this discussion about.

2) ...What? You ignored women because you thought I was dismissing them? That is nonsense for so many reasons.

3) This argument seems to entirely be based around the idea that I support the idea of rape culture. Which I don't. That makes this a little bizarre, because I don't know what I am supposed to be arguing here. I don't believe one rapist or one victim is indicative of the entire culture, and that is not what I am doing and it is not what I have done, so how is that any form of argument here? You have failed to support your point so you seem to have shifted to just stuffing words into my mouth and arguing that instead. I will not defend a position I don't hold (I feel like this isn't the first time I've said this to you).

4) ...The fuck? Tell me, where would I obtain reliable and consistent statistics relating to the rate of rape for every "population" within the United States? Depending on how these numbers are broken down, that may mean one data point for every college, every prison, every town or city or county or district, etc (or maybe prisons as a whole, colleges as a whole, then cities divided by class and then towns divided by class? Regardless, the data does not exist).. The data simply doesn't exist, but what data does exist suggests that you are wrong, and further, this is an absolutely ridiculous point in the first place. "Make me an impossible graph or I wont believe you"? Bullshit, man.

5) But they don't?

I love the argument of the fetus leeching the energy of the mother and then it being valid to abort...
So a relative since he have to work a lot, giving much more stress to his body over 18 years (or more) to support the child than a 9 months pregnancy can also decide the kid should die because the relative doesn't want to be leached anymore?

Another one I love is equating drunk sex with rape... as if both being drunk and having sex translate to female victim and male rapist, like she wasn't conscious enough to agree, but he suddenly was to be criminalized.

1. Yeah I did not get that one either especially since there are a million way to prevent any woman from getting a Child. 

2. You kind a have to too get to the 1 in 5 figure, hell a girl was druk an had sex with a guy and regrets it afterwards probably happened to way more girls. But if that's the main issue, than alcoholism seems to be the prior source of rape, not some presumed society who supports rape.

3. In the end both cases are about people who refuses to take rensponsibility for their damn actions. If you get so drunk you can't really react to anything (you can say no to free drink its a two letter word for fuck sake) and have sex with someone and later regret it, I would not call it rape. I would call it being very stupid and because of that you have been taken advantage off, sucks for you but I would not lable it as rape.

Same for abortion, getting pregnant by accident is pretty impressive these days to begin with, but for the sake of argument lets say you are that 1 or 2% of people that got pregnant while using condoms or/and the pill etc. You still got 20 weeks to legaly abort your foetus. If you don't act within that time than bitching about it has little to nothing to do with freedom, but more with the right to being neglectful without concequence, the world doesn't and will never work like that. 

1 - And pregnancy not being a disease nor threatening anyone's life to equate the fetus to a leech or equate not donating your kidney.

2 - I guess women would generally feel more regret over dumb actions than men, but I have seem people in VGC trying to put even when both are equally drunk the girl was rapped.

3 - I wouldn't get drunk in a place or with people I don't trust.

About abortion, I'm totally against (but wouldn't forbid through government coercion). When I think about accidental pregnancy I can only imagine someone walking and slipping in a skate, unfortunately landing on a men lap and immediate pregnancy. Like it can't be accident when the sole outcome of sex can only be pregnancy. So doesn't matter how many precautions you take, you must be willing to accept the consequences. You can't abort AIDS, but people want a world as free of consequence as possible.

Speaking of math, have we figured out the percentage of Reddit threads that are made up by the one thread mentioned in number 18?

Correct. The Fetus should not have rights that override the owners body.
Just like I have zero rights over your body, fetus should be treated the same, not as an exception.

Uh. Not sure what you are trying to portray here...

But the difference between a child and a fetus is simple.
A child does not survive and grow at the expense of someone else.
A fetus is more than welcomed to do the same, but generally can not.

There are a ton of reasons why you may need to abort a pregnancy, no they won't be all accidental.
Sometimes mental health comes into play.
Sometimes precautions fail. (Condoms aren't 100%).
Sometimes the pill doesn't work.
Sometimes the individual was under the influence and couldn't make an appropriate decision.
Sometimes domestic violence comes into play.
Sometimes religion comes into it.

The individuals financial position may have changed, meaning they can't afford to live in a home or buy food, let alone support an infant.

Judge not.

Equating AIDS which has killed and continues to kill is extremely disingenuous.